Jason Heil, left, co-owner of the “Redial” call center in Tijuana, Baja California Mexico, and supervisor Joaquin Aviles, right, go over call volume on Sept. 25, 2019. Aviles, a USMC veteran, was in the news recently after he was readmitted to the US after a lengthly court and administrative battle. (John Gibbins/The San Diego Union-Tribune/TNS)

Jason Heil, left, co-owner of the “Redial” call center in Tijuana, Baja California Mexico, and supervisor Joaquin Aviles, right, go over call volume on Sept. 25, 2019. Aviles, a USMC veteran, was in the news recently after he was readmitted to the US after a lengthly court and administrative battle. (John Gibbins/The San Diego Union-Tribune/TNS)

Tijuana’s call centers offer a lifeline to deportees struggling to live in Mexico

TIJUANA, Mexico — Richard Avila was 56 when he was deported to Mexico eight years ago. He had lived in East Los Angeles since he was a 2-year-old and the idea of living in Tijuana felt like being sent to the moon.

“When I first got here, it was complete culture shock,” he said. “It was a struggle every day.”

Like thousands of deportees who have spent most of their lives in the United States, Avila didn’t know where he fit in. He wasn’t American, but he also wasn’t Mexican. He lived in a sort of bi-cultural limbo where something as small as the way he spoke put a target on his back.

Whenever Mexican co-workers at the maquiladora he worked in heard his accent, they called him, “pocho,” a derogatory term for Mexican who left their homeland.

For the first couple of years in Tijuana, Avila kept his head down, didn’t make many friends, and just accepted the discrimination.

It wasn’t until he found a job in one of Tijuana’s call centers that he began to feel at home in the border city south of San Diego.

“For deportees, call centers are the best possible job you could think of,” Avila said.

For starters, call center jobs pay more than construction or maquiladora work. But, more importantly, Avila’s ability to speak English was seen as an asset instead of a scarlet letter.

Over the last two decades the number of call centers in Tijuana has grown from roughly 10 to more than 60. And the majority of them employ deportees like Avila, said Jose Salvatierra, a recruiter with more than 16 years of experience in the industry.

Historically, India has been the call center capital of the world. But, Tijuana has been able to lure call centers away from India because of the city’s availability of accent-neutral English speakers and Mexico’s low wages relative to the United States.

“Tijuana has become like the new Bombay,” said Salvatierra. “India is no longer the first option.”

Apart from bringing companies from India or the Philippines, Tijuana’s call center boom has also caught the attention of California-based companies that cannot afford to keep up with the rising minimum wage.

Redial BPO, the company that both Avila and Salvatierra work for, moved to Tijuana a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised to find so many English-speaking phone operators, or agents as they are known in the industry. About 90 % of their agents are deportees.

Deportees are so valuable because they know a lot about American culture. In sales, they can use that knowledge to engage in small talk, find shared interests and quickly establish rapport to close a sale.

“They don’t just speak English, they speak American, which is very different,” said Jason Heil, one of Redial’s co-founders.

For example, Heil points out, deportees know to ask about last Sunday’s Dallas Cowboys game if they are speaking on the phone with someone from Texas.

Redial, which was founded by twin brothers who grew up in San Diego and often travel to Baja, embraced their new home south of the border.

During last summer’s World Cup, they shut down the office and ordered a buffet as they watched Mexico play Sweden.

“I keep forgetting that Mexico is another country,” said co-founder Chris Heil. “It’s just like another neighborhood for us — besides this fence.”

One of Redials’ biggest challenges in Tijuana is finding and retaining talented agents. Because there are so many call centers, there is a high demand for English speakers willing to work the phones. That means wages have increased — although, at roughly $150 a week plus commission, they are still much lower than American wages.

To set them apart from the competition, Redial has imported some American business culture to Tijuana. For instance, each agent has a wide desk with two monitors. Other call centers are known for squeezing in as many agents to white plastic tables college students use to play beer pong.

Additionally, the company maintains a five-day work week instead of Mexico’s customary six-day work week. Whenever an employee has a birthday, someone decorates their cubicle with balloons.

Deportees used to working in the United States, appreciate these gestures.

“Even though we are Mexican born, we’re American bred,” said David Garcia, 35. “That paper doesn’t say we’re American, but our culture, our way of being is American.”

Garcia was brought to the United States as a child. He grew up in Southeast San Diego, went to Jones Elementary and lived in Shelltown.

Like Avila, he struggled to find his place in Tijuana and faced some discrimination from other Mexicans. But, within a month of being deported in 2010, he found a call center job and started to meet other deportees.

The world didn’t seem so big anymore.

“I met people here who I went to middle school with,” he said.

Garcia uses his base salary to pay for an apartment and send his two kids to private school in Tijuana. His commission pays for everything else.

By Gustavo Solis, The San Diego Union-Tribune

If you find our journalism valuable and relevant, please consider joining our Examiner membership program.
Find out more at www.sfexaminer.com/join/

Just Posted

Dr. Grant Colfax, director of the Department of Public Health, said Friday he expected San Francisco to enter the purple tier within days. (Chris Victorio/Special to S.F. Media Co)
SF still in the red but expects move into purple tier ‘some time soon’

Four more counties moved into highest COVID-19 risk category by state

District Attorney Chesa Boudin announces charges against former SFPD Officer Christopher Samoyoa in the 2017 fatal shooting of Keita O’Neill at a press conference outside the Hall of Justice on Monday, Nov. 23, 2020. (Kevin N. Hume/S.F. Examiner)
DA Boudin charges fired SFPD officer with manslaughter over fatal shooting

Ex-Officer Christopher Samayoa to face criminal charges in killing of Keita O’Neil

The area near the Castro Muni Metro Station is expected to be affected by construction work on the Twin Peaks Tunnel, with lane closures on Market Street and some loss of parking. (Kevin N. Hume/S.F. Examiner)
Construction on Twin Peaks Tunnel to begin November 30

Area around Castro Muni Station will see greatest impacts including lane closures on Market Street

Cal Junior Quarterback Chase Garbers completed 28 of 42 passes 315 yards and three touchdowns and two interceptions in his last game against Oregon State. (Kevin Clark / The Herald)
The Big Game: Stanford at Cal

What: The 123rd Big Game When: Friday, 1:30 p.m. Where: Memorial Stadium,… Continue reading

Most Read