The 61-year-old and his partner, Bruce Ivie, 51, have been together for 27 years. The San Francisco couple were at City Hall on Thursday to celebrate the state Supreme Court ruling that they have a right to remarry. The two were unofficially married in 1981, married again in 2004 and are preparing to tie the knot for a third time.
What was your first reaction when you heard the news you could officially marry? Actually, I was not surprised. I knew there was no way possible that a real human with a real brain could not have come up with the decision they came up with.
Do you feel any kind of bitterness that this has taken so long? No, not all. Look at how long it took to land on the moon. We haven’t even created fuel outside the oil realm yet, but we have to, and one day we will. It takes a long time to change something as slow as government.
You’ve had your marriage rights stripped before [after the courts ruled in 2004 that Mayor Gavin Newsom illegally authorized gay marriages]. Any chance you might think that will happen again? I don’t think this will change, because we never had it protected by the Constitution. And we have that backing because we have a very advanced-thinking mayor who inherently decided in his oath of office that protection of equality was across the board.
What would you say to people who claim this decision would destroy marriage? It didn’t destroy marriage when people of a different color could marry other people of color. The vote wasn’t destroyed when women were allowed to vote equally with men. This is just another one of those major steps.