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Union workers would be exempt from Dem health care tax

By: Susan Ferrechio
Chief Congressional Correspondent
June 23, 2009

The best chance for compromise legislation on health care may be a plan under construction in the Senate Finance Committee that would pay for a public plan in part by taxing some worker health benefits.

But the union workers who helped Democrats win Congress and the White House and whose support will be key in getting a health bill signed into law would not pay the tax.

With cost estimates already as high as $1.6 trillion, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., has proposed paying for the bill in part by taxing health care benefits for workers who earn more than $100,000, or $200,000 for married couples, according to those familiar with the discussions.

Baucus is also weighing a tax based on the value of health care benefits that exceed a yet-to-be determined cap. A tax on benefits that exceed the cap by a mere $3,000 could amount to $750 in taxes annually for a worker who earns as little as $34,000, say experts.

But those union members serving under collective bargaining agreements would not be subjected to the tax, according to proposals under discussion.

Union workers enjoy some of the most extensive and costliest health benefits, and union officials complained their members would be unfairly burdened by a health care tax because their contracts cannot be changed quickly enough to avoid it. 

Union members also represent one of the biggest and most powerful Democratic constituencies and their support of any health care reform proposal is viewed as essential to getting a bill passed in Congress.

Baucus has proposed the tax threshold on health care benefits be set higher than the cost of policies available to federal employees and he has proposed exempting until 2013 those plans negotiated as part of union contracts.

“It’s a means of making sure that unions are foursquare behind any reform bill that comes out,” said Henry Aaron, a health care policy expert at Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

Critics of the Baucus proposal to exempt unions from a health care benefits tax said the exclusion could be used to lure into unions employees who are anxious to avoid the benefits tax.

Paul Fronstin, a senior research associate with the nonpartisan Employee Benefit Research Institute, said excluding union benefits is also practical.

“The reality is, unions are in the position where they are going to get hit the hardest on that tax, and they just can’t change it on a dime like everyone else,” Fronstin said.

Baucus is said to be considering a delay for everyone, not just unions.

“And there is precedent for that,” Fronstin said. “When the Clinton health plan was put on the table in 1993, the effective date was 1998. It was giving the industry time to implement whatever adjustments they needed to make.”



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CO Defender

Jun 23, 2009

This is sick--more political "payback" from the criminals in DC. And who will bear the burden of these "bennies" for the union--that's right, Joe and Jane sucker six-pack, who don't belong to one of the privileged unions. God, this crap is pi$$ing me off!

 

Ralph Gizzip

Jun 23, 2009

wow! Pander much there, Dems? If a government health care plan is going to be imposed on the American public then everyone must participate, including members of Congress.

 

Warren

Jun 23, 2009

Here I sit in my retirement year and watching my money disappear. I can't even draw on what left on my IRA because the value is so low. And now you want to tax me more for my health benefits. Then kick us in the teeth and let the unions off the hook. 2010 is not soon enough. I sure hope that the "paying" American wake up by then to this outrage. Gee, just can't wait for cap and trade and watch my electric bill go sky high. Obama says only the polluters will pay.... well WHO do you think they pass that cost on too... ME!

 

Helen of New York

Jun 23, 2009

"and they just can’t change it on a dime like everyone else." I used to sell health insurance to employer groups. The health insurance co I worked for did away with an Rx rider that effected a Union plan ($3/$7 Rx copay) The Employer wanted to move to "the next best thing" = $5/$10 Rx co. The Union refused to move causing the insurance company to MANUALLY process all Union Rx claims (system was no longer programmed to process the discontined copay claims.) The Unions have forced vendors (and management)to "change on a dime" now it's their turn. What goes around comes around.

 

Marie

Jun 24, 2009

OK, so with the EFCA coming down the pike, theoretically increaseing union membership--sooner or later, the people paying this tax will be reduced, resulting in deficit funding for this plan. Or, higher taxes yet on the few that remain paying in to the plan to maintain funding.

Unions are all for one/one for all--why not on this issue? They want everyone treated the same--why not here?

Just like the administration is saying--everyone needs to chip in to help here. Not just the rich, not just the poor, but everyone.

 

xnmmi77

Jun 24, 2009

Okay, several points for you people...I am a Republican and a Teamsters member...the contracts are legally binding and they cannot be changed over night. The labor unions are a very strong group in this country...the current administration is in support of labor, so why are you people surprised at pro-labor legislation? There were vast numbers of us in the Republican party and in unions, that voted for Obama just to get the EFCA passed....chew on that.

 

Bill

Jun 24, 2009

OK XNMMI77, why are unions soooooo afraid of a secret ballot? Could it be that WE know UNIONS are a thing of the past, only good for ruining companies? EFCA does away with secret ballots. Let you union thugs come to my house and threaten me, you will looking at the business end of a 12 gauge pump.

 

Flu-Bird

Jun 24, 2009

Just another way the demacrooks can force more people to vote for them This sounds more like the monarcy the royal demacreeps want

 

warlord

Jun 24, 2009

The reason why the Democratic congressmen want Universal Healthcare is that it is a way of gaining power over the masses...they themselves will NEVER use it...just like the old Soviet apparatchiks they will have their own system to use which will and remain gold plated...just like they don't mind raising taxes...they DON"T pay any...

 

Thomas

Jun 24, 2009

One hundred years ago labor unions were working and taking real risks with life and limb to get the secret ballot.

Now they want to eliminate the secret ballot and anyone who opposes them risks life and limb.

Congratulations fellas, you are the new reactionaries.

 

esch

Jun 24, 2009

Unions are distilled socialism and everything they do is a variant of the old mob 'insurance' racket.

'Nice company|state|economy you got there, it'd be a shame if something happened to it.'

Unions are monopolistic extortion rackets based on the threat of violence. They ALL need to cease to exist.

 

Banker

Jun 24, 2009

Why should union workers contracts be changed so they can avoid the tax? In this case, they're the entitled and should pay a premium tax on their benefits. how about a 90% tax on union health care benefits, what works for wall street should work will in Unionville, eh?

 

producer not a leech

Jun 24, 2009

xnmmi77

Jun 24, 2009

Okay, several points for you people...I am a Republican and a Teamsters member...the contracts are legally binding and they cannot be changed over night. The labor unions are a very strong group in this country...the current administration is in support of labor, so why are you people surprised at pro-labor legislation? There were vast numbers of us in the Republican party and in unions, that voted for Obama just to get the EFCA passed....chew on that.

May you die in a fire with all of your brethren and give the country back to those who actually produce something worth more than their eight hour shift.

 

jscope

Jun 24, 2009

Health care financing has become a politically horse-traded business by both liberals ans conservatives, favoring narrow groups at the expense of most Americans. Unions, Congress and Federal employees have much better insurance coverage than most Americans but want to be subsidized by taxpayers who have to buy their health care insurance with after tax dollars. I believed a single-payer system run by a private commission, not by government, would squeeze costs, spread costs over the widest possible base, while still providing high quality health care, but if this political nonsense continues, health care reform will fail. Many of us will still have our employer-provided insurance, albeit with ever-incresing costs, insurance company bureaucrats standing between us and our doctor, rationing through delays in payment and denial of coverage, and million dollar compensation to bean counters parading as CEOs and CFOs of insurance companies and consulting companies.

 

Jake

Jun 25, 2009

Yeah, Palin is an idiot. Still, a vote for McCain would have been putting a halt to both the executive and legislative branches being controlled by the comrades in the Democratic Party. That's why I voted for McCain. To all the clowns who voted for Obama, I hope you're freakin happy. Morons...

 

Commonsense

Jun 25, 2009

Get organized, talk to your friends, get the socialists out of Washington. 2010 is coming, don't just whine, do something that will help get rid of these fools.

 

Jerbear31

Jun 25, 2009

Post Office, now picture a hostpital run by the same people. Stop government growth.

 

bobc

Jun 26, 2009

Pure class warfare, the Democratic Party loves this!

 

Dick

Jun 27, 2009

Why stop with exempting union members - just be honest with the public and exempt all registered Democrats! I will save money by switching party affiliations; but will still vote Republican. Hurry up and get here 2010, we are fed up with the idiots in Washington.

 

texasgranny1947

Jul 6, 2009

Well, I am 62 and since Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama all but said on the All Obama Channel (ABC) that the treatments for us older citizens would be too expensive and not worth the expense I will not be taking Obamacare. Quite frankly I would rather die out on Hwy 155 than pay for this worthless Obamacare.

 

Jul 16, 2009

Unions have outlived their usefulness
And many in congress also!!!!

 

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Jul 23, 2009

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Shep

Aug 10, 2009

What a crock of s&%t. Typical. The Democrats have no interest in "fairness" or "equality". This is a page right out of George Orwell's 1984 "Everyone is equal except some are more equal than others." The entire Democratic party that is trying so hard to push this through legislation is going to be voted out in 2010. Can't wait for their parties downfall after supporting this terrible, disruptive and soon-to-be disastrous legislation. But THANK GOD FOR TERM LIMITS.

 

Aug 12, 2009

Democrats are scum sucking maggots.

I wish I could think of stronger words.

Actually, I can.

 

gunner

Nov 13, 2009

How's that hopey-changey thing going for you now? Elections have consequences. I won't be paying the tax either. No more "deficit neutral" bill.

 

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Tom

Jan 6, 2010

You people just pay and take it like good tax payers you are.I will pay my union dues.and get good hourly wage.good pension plan and tax excempt health care plan.and future job training.next time I am at mcdonalds or walmart I will give you a tip.don't plant your garden in december..HAHA..Oh and THANKS..

 

Jan 9, 2010

As a Union member I give a fair days work for a fair days pay, Each member in my Union pays $11.55 per hour for health ins. Yes it is good but we have been loseing beni's almost every year, Why should we now have to pay roughly the same in taxes and recieve less service, As a proud Union member that will be able to retire at 50 years old with a good pension I still vote Republican, so while most of the people wanting this gavernment health I'll see you still working to pay for it when your in your late 60's . Shame on every one voting for Obama.If half of you had it to do over again you could have talked a good game about wanting change when you stuck your head under the booth you would vote Republican......

 

rooster

Jan 12, 2010

all your wages are based on my union wage.if unions were not around you would be enjoying state minimum wage which has not changed sense the 1800's

 

Bill the cat

Jan 14, 2010

The public sector is truly out of control. Workers enjoy pay and perks unheard of in the private sector...and they are still claiming they are underpaid in comparison. Statistically, this was true....about 30 years ago. Not anymore by a long shot.

This is bad policy...but there are bigger fish to fry. First up should be the present public retirees and their gravy train. Make them pay for a lot more of their healthcare premiums, and frankly, look into the legal ways to cut other obscene benefits as well. It's a problem as all levels.

 

SPFLDnet

Jan 14, 2010

I took labor history in college. I know that unions fought for their wages, how did that translate to my wages again? I need to know the exact citation for that claim please.

 

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Jan 15, 2010

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kevin

Jan 15, 2010

I'll will never ever buy an American made car again 1. they SUCK 2.the Union is organized crime. 3. my taxes saved there sorry asses. 4. Obama is a Socialist. NEVER BUY UNION AGAIN

 

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