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Examiner Editorial: Expanded Americorps has stench of authoritarianism


Examiner Editorial
March 26, 2009

With almost no public attention, both chambers of Congress in the past week advanced an alarming expansion of the Americorps national service plan, with the number of federally funded community-service jobs increasing from 75,000 to 250,000 at a cost of $5.7 billion. Lurking behind the feel-good rhetoric spouted by the measure’s advocates is a bill that upon closer inspection reveals multiple provisions that together create a strong odor of creepy authoritarianism.

The House passed the measure overwhelmingly, while only 14 senators had the sense and courage to vote against it on a key procedural motion. Every legislator who either voted for this bill or didn’t vote at all has some serious explaining to do.

Last summer, then-candidate Barack Obama threw civil liberties to the wind when he proposed “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the regular military. The expanded Americorps is not quite so disturbing, but a number of provisions in the bill raise serious concerns.

To begin with, the legislation threatens the voluntary nature of Americorps by calling for consideration of “a workable, fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.” It anticipates the possibility of requiring “all individuals in the United States” to perform such service, including elementary school students.

The bill also summons up unsettling memories of World War II-era paramilitary groups by saying the new program should “combine the best practices of civilian service with the best aspects of military service,” while establishing “campuses” that serve as “operational headquarters,” complete with “superintendents” and “uniforms” for all participants. It allows for the elimination of all age restrictions in order to involve Americans at all stages of life. And, it calls for the creation of “a permanent cadre” in a “National Community Civilian Corps.”

But that’s not all. The bill also calls for “youth engagement zones” in which “service learning” is “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”

This updated form of voluntary community service is also to be “integrated into the science, technology, engineering and mathematics curricula” at all levels of schooling. Sounds like a government curriculum for government-approved “service learning,” which is nothing less than indoctrination.

Now, ask yourself if Congress members who voted for this monstrosity had a clue what they were voting for. If not, they’re guilty of dereliction of duty. If they did, the implications are truly frightening.



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Mar 26, 2009

Oh you poor, scared conservatives. The world has moved on and you're still scrabbling and screaming about conspiracies from the excrement-laden mud. Enjoy your wallowing.

 

Mar 26, 2009

Previous poster - you well demonstrate your ignorance. Hope you enjoy your time doing mandatory service. Unfortunately, the type of re-educating you will receive is not what you need. Go wallow yourself, loser!

 

TJY

Mar 26, 2009

"Conservative"?? The SF Examiner is considered a liberal rag

 

JamesJ

Mar 26, 2009

All Hail Obama! All Hail the State!

 

JamesJ

Mar 26, 2009

All Hail Obama! All Hail the State!

 

Brad

Mar 26, 2009

Oh you poor, foolish liberals. You are following the annointed one and helping him to destroy the United States. I hope you enjoy the new world that you are in the process of creating. We conservatives tried to warn you of your folly but, of course, you wouldn't listen.

 

Learned from history

Mar 26, 2009

I don't know if I necessarily agree with the idea that this will be the next Young Communist league. But I can agree that spending an additional $3 billion on a program with no measurable goals is not a good idea when we are looking at over $1 trillion per year in deficits.

 

Learned from history

Mar 26, 2009

I don't know if I necessarily agree with the idea that this will be the next Young Communist league. But I can agree that spending an additional $3 billion on a program with no measurable goals is not a good idea when we are looking at over $1 trillion per year in deficits.

 

tskier

Mar 26, 2009

Can you say Nazi Youth Squad?

 

JDW

Mar 26, 2009

Dear mothers and fathers, Wait until the bus pulls up to your house to take your children to a camp that most likely will not allow you to visit let alone provide a curriculum. Already, the many public schools allow the gay community to come in to spew their indoctrination, and the courts have ruled that they are allowed to keep their curriculum from you. Some courts have even ruled that the school does not need to inform you, or even allow your children to opt out. I can’t wait to see the uniforms; will they be brown, or white with a red sash, or will OBAMBI get creative? You had better wake up America. CHANGE WE CAN REALLY BELIEVE IN!

 

no freedom without risk

Mar 26, 2009

Of course this will be built upon the ACORN template. The "leaders" will all be leftists. There will be required "training" where the young will be indoctrinated into liberalism and intimidated into leftist philosophy. This is simply a plan to indoctrinate the ones missed by the public school system and academia.

 

Good Ole Paul

Mar 26, 2009

Chains we can believe in.

 

Good Ole Paul

Mar 26, 2009

Chains we can believe in.

 

Judith Rubin

Mar 26, 2009

Joanna, This article is from a traditionally liberal paper from San Francisco. It is frightening! I just read an even scarier one from the UK talking about Obama, community organizing, his thug Rham Emanuel and the formation of an army to compete in size with the US Military and funded in the same way. All Youth are to go to "camps" to "learn". This is the way the Nazi's got started. Our youth are also to be wearing uniforms. Bad things are happening under the radar and we all fiddle while Rome burns. Just had a call from a Black banker friend and he's just as alarmed.

 

Timothy L. Pennell

Mar 26, 2009

Obama is a MARXIST. He's a SOCIALIST. He's just doing what ALL Marxists, and Socialists do. They have STREET GANGS, to do their 'Dirty Work'. We used to call them 'BROWN SHIRTS'. Now they're just called 'Volunteers'. Like the 'Volunteers' that were bussed up to Connecticut, from one of the Hell Holes in NYC, to TERRORIZE the AIG folks, and their FAMILIES. Like KRISTALNACHT. The Service Employees Union put that one together. This is why they want to ELLIMINATE the secret ballot for Unionization. More Unions, more BROWN SHIRTS. Like Venezuala. Look at the bright side. When your own kids turn you in, for 'Unpatriotic Remarks' toward our 'Dear Leader', they'll look sharp, in their Brown Shorts, and RED Bandanas. See? There is a bright side,

 

Timothy L. Pennell

Mar 26, 2009

Obama is a MARXIST. He's a SOCIALIST. He's just doing what ALL Marxists, and Socialists do. They have STREET GANGS, to do their 'Dirty Work'. We used to call them 'BROWN SHIRTS'. Now they're just called 'Volunteers'. Like the 'Volunteers' that were bussed up to Connecticut, from one of the Hell Holes in NYC, to TERRORIZE the AIG folks, and their FAMILIES. Like KRISTALNACHT. The Service Employees Union put that one together. This is why they want to ELLIMINATE the secret ballot for Unionization. More Unions, more BROWN SHIRTS. Like Venezuala. Look at the bright side. When your own kids turn you in, for 'Unpatriotic Remarks' toward our 'Dear Leader', they'll look sharp, in their Brown Shorts, and RED Bandanas. See? There is a bright side,

 

Kat

Mar 26, 2009

Heil Obama! It will be just like the draft. All you middle-class liberals will find a way to exempt your own kids, while letting everyone else do the dirty work. Have you no idea of how these kinds of programs have played out in other countries? Read some history.

 

PGR88

Mar 26, 2009

When I come to power, I will use Americorp to enforce social morality, especially in places like SF. That's what youth are good at. I am glad the pieces are all being put together for me now.

 

La Lydia

Mar 26, 2009

I, for one, welcome our new Marxist overlords.

 

dmzrn

Mar 26, 2009

O-bots are too stupid for words.

 

Smith

Mar 26, 2009

"The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William L. Shirer. Read it. We are there.

 

Colorado

Mar 26, 2009

So is Obama going to send his troops to your house to hold you at gunpoint to force you to join his Americorps? You know this is the same administration who wants to tax your contributions to charity. You would think that the Messiah would want people to give. He just wants to take, thats his objective. Can't stand the guy.

 

Rocky

Mar 26, 2009

The person who posted this.... "Oh you poor, scared conservatives. The world has moved on and you're still scrabbling and screaming about conspiracies from the excrement-laden mud. Enjoy your wallowing." IS AN IDIOT!!

 

Rocky

Mar 26, 2009

The person who posted this.... "Oh you poor, scared conservatives. The world has moved on and you're still scrabbling and screaming about conspiracies from the excrement-laden mud. Enjoy your wallowing." IS AN IDIOT!!

 

Mame

Mar 26, 2009

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. This is exactly what happened in Germany under Hitler.

 

Dwall

Mar 26, 2009

Go by a copy of Marc Levin's brillant book: "Liberty and Tryanny: A Conservative Manifesto". This will explain the open assault on our Liberty from these Statists in our midsts so that we can defend ourselves from their tryanny of taxation and liberal hypocrisy.

 

RobertP

Mar 26, 2009

Just one question; will the ObamaJugend wear brown or black shirts?

 

Mar 26, 2009

Will members wear brown shirts? At least Hitler had been a corporal, before organizing a paramilitary.

 

Mar 26, 2009

Will members wear brown shirts? At least Hitler had been a corporal, before organizing a paramilitary.

 

oatka

Mar 26, 2009

I've heard this before (dad was from Germany): "“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I say calmly, ‘Your child belongs to us already...What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing but this new community’.” - Adolf Hitler"

 

tri

Mar 26, 2009

I spent my childhood in a Communist country, and boys and girls, this is how it starts: you're there doing "community work" and your kids are somewhere else being indoctrinated...you end up being irrlelvant in your kid's life because you no longer have the same values or speak the same language...and that 's just the effect it has on your family!

 

Terence Clark

Mar 26, 2009

Its seems we are building a new group of brown shirts or hitler youth groups. Instead they are Obama youth. Whats next reeducation camps for the people who object to this.

 

Niall

Mar 26, 2009

The Examiner is owned by conservative Christian Philip Anshutz. For this reason alone is it scorned by the liberal loonies in SF.

 

CitizensArrestCitizensArrest

Mar 26, 2009

Yes, the world is coming to an end and it is those danged liberals. For sure.

 

Jon Groseth

Mar 26, 2009

I have known people who, as young people growing up in Germany in the 30s and 40s, were members of the Hitler Youth Corps. This looks like the same kind of thing. Is this Speaker Pelosi's idea?

 

SFLiberal13

Mar 26, 2009

I am a very liberal democrat. Frankly this goes against any liberals beliefs. This is just plain scary. I gotta say I supported Obama but now I am having some major reservations. Where is the transparency. Gitmo is still open and we are staying in Iraq indefinitely???? Also why did he appoint the entire Clinton WH Staff? Not the Hope or Change I voted for!

 

AmericorpsAlum

Mar 26, 2009

Ladies and Gentlemen, put down the koolaid. Americorps is the furthest thing from an authoritarian takeover that I can imagine. Listen; I spent the last ten months as an Americorps member. I traveled the country with a team of college aged folks, and we did volunteer work. None of our tasks were outlined by the federal government. We were loaned out to non-profits, and ALL of our work came from them. The federal oversight of our work was minimal; our superiors only wanted the barest essential numbers to prove that the program was "getting things done." 5,000 invasive blackberry plants pulled. 60 tons of mulch moved. 6 schools painted. 175 community members engaged in service. americorps is a blank check from the federal government to non-profit organizations in the form of free labor. It is the opposite of an authoritarian work corps, because the government does not create the projects. Calm down. Ask questions.

 

Kim S

Mar 26, 2009

Sounds just like Hitler! Is that what our Great United States is turning into? What happened to our rights/freedoms? All those that voted blindly should be fired!!!! Impeach them all!!!! IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH

 

Kim S

Mar 26, 2009

Sounds just like Hitler! Is that what our Great United States is turning into? What happened to our rights/freedoms? All those that voted blindly should be fired!!!! Impeach them all!!!! IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH

 

Woody

Mar 26, 2009

BOTH the Republican-conservatives and the Democrat-liberals have managed to "change" our country, especially since November 1963. Arguing about which of these 2 apparently colluding sides is better plays into their game.

 

phineas

Mar 26, 2009

If the multinationals hadn't "globalized" all those US jobs into oblivion, endeavours like this wouldn't get off the ground.... If this goes awry, we can all thank the outsourcers....Ain't globalization great?

 

HogansHero

Mar 26, 2009

Being "forced" to volunteer is ludicrous. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude...shall exist within the United States." (see 13th Amendment) I, for one, and my family will not participate in this lunacy. Do NOT get on the bus if you do not want to. This is unconstitutional. Tell them to go to hell and be prepared to take your case to the Supreme Court if need be.

 

HogansHero

Mar 26, 2009

Just Say No to Fascism. Be a peaceful resistor to unjust laws. Let the thugs take the first punch to make you conform. (Take a lesson from the Civil Rights Movement.) This will expose their tyranny for what it is and we'll unite as a free people in defense of liberty.

 

weirdone

Mar 26, 2009

SFLiberal13: Glad to see your waking up to the truth, would have been better if you had looked at this Marxist before the election though; he is doing exactly what he said he would do. Welcome to the “Brave New World.” "War Is Peace." "Freedom is Slavery." "Ignorance is Strength." Orwell During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Orwell

 

weirdone

Mar 26, 2009

SFLiberal13: Glad to see your waking up to the truth, would have been better if you had looked at this Marxist before the election though; he is doing exactly what he said he would do. Welcome to the “Brave New World.” "War Is Peace." "Freedom is Slavery." "Ignorance is Strength." Orwell During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Orwell

 

Very Conerned

Mar 26, 2009

YAY. We all have front row seats for the show, brought to you by the elite marxist zionist banking oligarchs to a sports stadium near you. Baaaaah. Thank God i'm in Ireland and not in America. Anyway, as Rahm put it, at least a million of you are already terrorists so the government has to protect the elites interests from you, the Goyim. In God they trust, but which god.

 

George

Mar 26, 2009

Come on up to Canada if you don't want to join the Mussolini - I mean Obama - blackshirts. We're about 10-15 years behind you so you can buy some breathing space while you figure out how to take back your country.

 

Juven

Mar 26, 2009

I would not serve in Obama's army and my children will not either--they are already aware of the incredible treason this Obama guy is bringing to this country. He lies about everything-- Eric Holder says no more raids by the DEA and what happens less than a week later? Another raid. No end to Gitmo, renaming and mindless rhetoric seems to be the Obama method; not much different than our last monster-- Bush. New boss, same as the old.

 

Richard

Mar 26, 2009

Goerge what a wonderful invitation, I for one may take you up on that.

 

Cookie

Mar 26, 2009

"Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." I never thought I'd be writing those words about Americans who never learned or don't remember the atrocities committed by the Nazi's and their brown-shirted youth corps. The similarities are too frightening to consider.

 

xbjllb

Mar 26, 2009

Two words: Hitler Youth. And I'm a lifelong Democrat before you go hurling the repug comments.

 

Bill H

Mar 26, 2009

Great. Obama is making para-military groups to either enslave the USA or to fight with the various militia groupd that will rise to fight our march to socialism. I wonder which side the regular military and national guard take when the civil war starts?

 

Mar 26, 2009

OUR FORE FATHERS DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM AND LIBERTIES. IT SEEMS THEY DIED IN VEIN. ARE WE GOING TO FIGHT?

 

Mar 26, 2009

our fore fathers died for our freedom and liberties. it seems they died in vein. when are we going to fight?

 

Mom

Mar 26, 2009

Tchr,Wm Ayers, did a good job w/ indoctrination of his friend, Obama.

 

Tina

Mar 26, 2009

This sort of "service" is also required in Isreal.

 

Mar 26, 2009

If it gets the thug minded youth off the street selling drugs and doing drivebuy shooting then how bad can it really be. Hell I woud drive some of them over to the camps myself.

 

bebe

Mar 26, 2009

Will the elites insist on a straight-armed "Heil" gesture to complement the thuggish mindset? They'll think of something new, perhaps, although they themselves have oftentimes been photographed/filmed displaying that very gesture. We will soon be overrun by brownshirts...ah! It is true then; Hitler lost the battle , but the NAZI's won the war. Rahm, (dual Israeli-US citizenship) has been salivating for this since day one and now Congress has whorishly acquiesced. The NAZI's adhere to their tried-and-true patterns, eh? How infuriating to know the brain-washed and/or desperate masses will be, once again, fooled into goose-stepping their way into another dictatorship. Yours for 911Trurth

 

bebe

Mar 26, 2009

Hey AmericorpsAlum, you are the one who should be asking questions! 911Truth

 

HogansHero

Mar 26, 2009

The House and Senate are lapdogs, along with the MSM. This bill received no publicity. Don't also let HR 825 slip by without a fight. Google it, YouTube it, get informed, talk it up, get outraged, inform your local farmers, and fight it or we are all screwed.

 

HogansHero

Mar 26, 2009

The House and Senate are lapdogs, along with the MSM. This bill received no publicity. Don't also let HR 825 slip by without a fight. Google it, YouTube it, get informed, talk it up, get outraged, inform your local farmers, and fight it or we are all screwed.

 

Brian Is Getting Impatient

Mar 26, 2009

These terms "liberal" and "conservative" cast nothing but confusion. Why use language that has simply been deployed against you!? You have been divided and you have been conquered. The fish is already in the boat, and most of you are still arguing about what kind of fish it is and what kind of bait was used. Very useful. They intend to dominate liberals and conservatives alike, don't you all know that?

 

Blessed Granny

Mar 26, 2009

We know what Obama and his thugs are up to, even if Congress is clueless. My question is: How do we stop them?

 

HogansHero

Mar 26, 2009

Bill H: The enlisted men/women are among the most patriotic and will honor their oath to defend the CONSTITUTION. The overwhelming majority will refuse to follow orders that violate the Constitution. It will be fun to see the Blue Helmets and Blackwater boys run like sissies when the time comes.

 

Blessed Granny

Mar 26, 2009

AmericorpsAlum: your service is commendable. What you are missing is you VOLUNTEERED. What Obama is setting up is MANDATORY. Not the same at all.

 

Will

Mar 26, 2009

First, I don't believe the Government should be given authority over what the parents decide for their children. That is where CONgress is totally out of whack. Where does it state in the Constitution that the State has authority over our children. It does not. Secondly, every adult with children should speak up about this, it is a form of slavery and servitude to Big Brother, for God's sakes!

 

Kosher Khazar

Mar 26, 2009

All Hail Barry Satoro. (That is Obama's non Muslim name) Oh.... I forgot He isn't a Muslim, he is a Hussein. Yea right. Just when you thought it couldn't get worst than Clinton, they gave us Bush. After 8 years of nothing could be worse..... They give us bungling Barry. It's all over now.

 

Rich

Mar 26, 2009

Can we still stop it?

 

Rich

Mar 26, 2009

Can we still stop it?

 

August

Mar 26, 2009

Sounds great, but in reality the volunteerism & service ends when these students are only slaves cleaning the non-profit director's private bathrooms, vacuuming & emptying the trash in the director's offices, washing & polishing the director's limo; and after a long day of "volunteering" the students don't get a thanks but a "You forgot clean the other bathroom"!

 

August

Mar 26, 2009

Sounds great, but in reality the volunteerism & service ends when these students are only slaves cleaning the non-profit director's private bathrooms, vacuuming & emptying the trash in the director's offices, washing & polishing the director's limo; and after a long day of "volunteering" the students don't get a thanks but a "You forgot clean the other bathroom"!

 

anon

Mar 26, 2009

Time to buy a gun.

 

SukieTawdry

Mar 26, 2009

What, you actually expect these people to READ (much less understand) the bills they vote on? You poor fools. First, destroy to the extent possible private volunteerism and charitable giving (reducing the deductibility of such is a good start). Next, replace same with a para-military civilian corps, an expanded welfare state and confiscatory taxation to pay for it all. What about this do you not understand?

 

PolandOh1968

Mar 26, 2009

Friends; It is all about control of your money, job, and now your body and time. The libs are ABSOLUTE control freaks.

 

Mar 26, 2009

Oh you poor Republicrats! you poor poor people in general. The two party system as exists today was created by the international bankers who could care less about who is in office. They just want control over the money. They knew would fight ideologies and not notice the raping of your financial sector. The Rothchild's are doing this to us and the world. Understand real history. The warnings have been in Books by Fyodor Dostoyevsky The Brothers Karamazov. You can see clearly that we have been set up for a slaughtering by our own desperation that has been brought to us by th Khazars the AshkeNAZI's you will see soon when all the money and food is gone. If you let to few control the essentials to life for to many the result is always mass murder. Get ready china and Russia already own us. our Socialism will be our death. look at Stalin and the Russian jews that killed 30 million Christians. The elite don't want us 7 billion and counting on the planet anymore.

 

DAJ

Mar 26, 2009

It smacks of the Hitler Youth Corps.

 

polandOh1968

Mar 26, 2009

to sukie tawdry; you nailed it exactly. well put.

 

Carl Street

Mar 26, 2009

Die klugen leben von den dummen; und die dummen von ihrer arbeit! Ach JA!

 

spookga

Mar 26, 2009

Smacks very highly of Nazi organizations. Hitler Youth, Brown Shirts, SA, SS. Keep in mind that the Nazis were a far left party that advocated socialism. The same kind of socialism that liberals want this country to delve into.

 

BileJones

Mar 26, 2009

The US slide into fascism continues apace.

 

dik909

Mar 26, 2009

liberal, conservative... it's all the same.

 

Wolffie

Mar 26, 2009

Obama is exercising his COMMUNITY ORGANIZING experience; his ONLY experience. Mussolini and Hitler were also community organized. Hitler youth and Mussolini's black shirts are models for Obama to build on. I fear for my country under this narcissist.

 

johnday

Mar 26, 2009

Obama's administration remains hard to read, with options to do anything at all. This is an option to put any number of unemployed Americans to work, with or without their consent. It is a kinder, gentler FEMA camp, a CCC with conscription options. It shows the concern for Great Depression scenario to unfold. Position yourself now, however you can. This storm is not gone because the Dow is up in a sucker's rally.

 

rocky

Mar 26, 2009

Can you say "Hitler Youth"?

 

rocky

Mar 26, 2009

Can you say "Hitler Youth"?

 

Body Of Lies

Mar 26, 2009

Arbeit Macht Frei - The holocaust happened to people like us. I have not seen much mention of the FEMA Camps now spread across the USA in the comments, maybe the doubters of the insidious nature of this program should google FEMA Camps or better still watch the documentary videos on YouTube. Another good video to search YouTube for is "MTV - Martial Law Warning" Another good line of enquiry would be to google the existence of the "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" All the laws are passed and the military guidelines have recently been released. Who was it that once said "Those who sacrifice their liberties for a little security shall have, and deserve neither"

 

Colorado

Mar 26, 2009

Its already in the news that the Obamanation & his "heil Obama DemocRAT" party is backing down on the "middle class tax cut". Not that I ever believed him anyway. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for the Ba$tard!!

 

John The Builder

Mar 26, 2009

Are we being herded toward a pure form of fascism, or a new form of Obamunism? Both despise 'Liberty.' Smells like Hitler Youth meets Cuban block informer, dressed in a gray Mao jacket, droning "yes we can!" Well...."no you can't!"

 

Emilyjohn

Mar 26, 2009

These fools in Washington voted for the establishment of re-education camps at a cost of $5.7 billion plus. Why was the defense budget cut 10%??? Americans are swimming in very treacherous waters!

 

Emilyjohn

Mar 26, 2009

These fools in Washington voted for the establishment of re-education camps at a cost of $5.7 billion plus. Why was the defense budget cut 10%??? Americans are swimming in very treacherous waters!

 

Michael

Mar 26, 2009

Spoken like someone that doesn't know anything about the Nazi Youth, or WWII.

 

WERWOLF

Mar 26, 2009

You know what to do. Now do it.

 

stefan

Mar 26, 2009

I can say "Hitler Youth!" And Sukie, you're right on the money.

 

stefan

Mar 26, 2009

I can say "Hitler Youth!" And Sukie, you're right on the money.

 

Emma Goldberg

Mar 26, 2009

It'll be like the SA. The only problem is that it'll be run by Jews, not Germans.

 

WERWOLF

Mar 26, 2009

You know what to do. Now do it.

 

Thomas

Mar 26, 2009

The media hasn't said a word about the so-called REX 84 Internment camps that are located all over the country. These come complete with gas chambers and cremation ovens . HITLER WOULD BE PROUD!!

 

democratandrepublicansarethesame

Mar 26, 2009

This is for the creation of the modern version of Brown Shirts. Why, pray tell, is this called the "GIVE" act, if some of it's components State emphatically that they are MANDATORY! As in Slavery? As in Indoctrination? Folks - if you haven't figured out on your own that BOTH Democrats and Republicans ARE the enemy, you are too stupid for words.

 

Oh Boy!

Mar 26, 2009

Unfortunately the people that know & get it are reading articles like this as you can see by the comments below... Unfortunately the vast majority of people are boob brains are not reading this or if they are think it is a good idea & blame conservatives "screaming about conspiracies". Just watch Jay Leno when he does his "Jay-walk" segment as to the type of information retained by supposedly educated people. For all of the information & technology we have available people are DUMBED DOWN & some of them are educating the children!!! We surely have regressed & this is what you get when you have uneducated (in the real issues) voting.

 

Oh Boy!

Mar 26, 2009

Unfortunately the people that know & get it are reading articles like this as you can see by the comments below... Unfortunately the vast majority of people are boob brains are not reading this or if they are think it is a good idea & blame conservatives "screaming about conspiracies". Just watch Jay Leno when he does his "Jay-walk" segment as to the type of information retained by supposedly educated people. For all of the information & technology we have available people are DUMBED DOWN & some of them are educating the children!!! We surely have regressed & this is what you get when you have uneducated (in the real issues) voting.

 

Robert Sciolino

Mar 26, 2009

What's fascinating and equally frightening is the way left-leaning people seem to just blow this off and rebutt with invectives calling conservatives over-reacting "chicken littles". So, when the Patriot Act was introduced and the left flew off the handle about "authoritarianism"...what was that? Look, you either believe in liberty or you do not. When one blindly "blow off" such actions simply because a partisan on your side is enacting them, you are as blind as the German people of the 1932, who also would have laughed and ridiculed those against their leader. But then, you must learn as they did apparently...the hard way. So much for the lesson of history.

 

Disgusted

Mar 26, 2009

Even a cursory reading of the comments posted here in response to the irresponsible and misleading diatribe above reveals the character of the type of person it would appeal to. I have rarely seen such a combination of contradictory, anti-Semitic, conspiracy-theory addled, paranoid, and misinformed screeds. You accuse the President of being a Muslim, you accuse him of secretly being controlled by the international Zionist conspiracy. You accuse him of being a fascist, you accuse him of being a socialist. In one comment, he's the heir of Marx, in the next, he's the heir of Hitler. You are all a bunch of crackpots with a tenuous connection to reality at best. Will you people who posted in response to the alarmist lies in this miserable editorial either start taking your meds again, or kindly bugger off to the militia camps in Idaho, and leave us normal people to the task of rebuilding a country that eight years of Bush & Co. left a smoking ruin?

 

StandFast8473

Mar 26, 2009

You KoolAid drinking idiots on the left are missing two points. 1. The power you allow Washington to userp will some day be used agaisnt you. 2. My son will not go off to Obama/Stalin camp. That will be the day I put down my pen and start cleaning my rifle. Think it through morons.

 

Disgusted

Mar 26, 2009

No one's advocating sending children to Stalinist camps, you moron. Read the bill. The liar who wrote the editorial is quoting out of context. By the way, it's spelled "usurp." How about mandatory spelling camps for conservatives? Tell you what, you make a good point. Kindly put down your pen, and pick up your gun. And then use it to shoot yourself in the head. Yes, it'll blow your brains all over your trailer, but no one will know the difference.

 

Robert Sciolino

Mar 26, 2009

Yes, we are all "over-reacting". Of course Obama will fix "the last eight years": Massive government takeover of the private secctor, healthcare where government makes all our choices and fixes artifical prices leading to rationed care, and debt so massive, our grandchildren will be keeping 20 cents of every dollar they earn, and forced "voluntary service", yes....change we can believe in!

 

CheatedByAmericorps

Mar 26, 2009

Americorps is a way for non-profits to cheat small businesses by getting free help. One non-profit was going to hire my business but then received Americorps volunteers and wanted me to volunteer to train them for the work they were going hire me to do. This expansion is just a way to destroy small businesses by providing free labor.

 

StandFast8473

Mar 26, 2009

Disgusted, you're a liar! You haven't read the bill and you know how I know that don't you. I take no pleasure out of besting a liar and a hate filled ----head in a debate. READ THE BILL AND LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF YOUR MESSIAH.

 

Disgusted

Mar 26, 2009

Hey, StandFast? Yeah, I did. Here's the link. Congress: http://www.thomas.loc.gov As far as besting me in a debate, good luck, hillbilly.

 

LadyChurchillUSA

Mar 26, 2009

I for one welcome this because soon the liberals will be out of power and we conservatives will have all the youth to manipulate and brainwash.... careful what you wish for....

 

Mike

Mar 26, 2009

The Great Leader (Barak Jong Il anyone?)

 

Mike

Mar 26, 2009

The Great Leader (Barak Jong Il anyone?)

 

Disgusted

Mar 26, 2009

Jee... Zus.... Kee... Rist. You freaks really don't get it, do you? Here's the text, right from the bill itself: The term ‘youth engagement zone program’ means a service learning program in which members of an eligible partnership described in paragraph collaborate to provide coordinated school-based or community-based service learning opportunities, to address a specific community challenge, for an increasing percentage of out-of-school youth and secondary school students. That's from the bill, you imbeciles. School-based and community-based, for kids who have dropped out. Nothing about rounding up the kiddies for Indoctrination at Stalag 17. Would you people get your heads out of your recta? Hey, StandFast, you moron, satisfied that I've read the bill?

 

Disgusted

Mar 26, 2009

Jee... Zus.... Kee... Rist. You freaks really don't get it, do you? Here's the text, right from the bill itself: The term ‘youth engagement zone program’ means a service learning program in which members of an eligible partnership described in paragraph collaborate to provide coordinated school-based or community-based service learning opportunities, to address a specific community challenge, for an increasing percentage of out-of-school youth and secondary school students. That's from the bill, you imbeciles. School-based and community-based, for kids who have dropped out. Nothing about rounding up the kiddies for Indoctrination at Stalag 17. Would you people get your heads out of your recta? Hey, StandFast, you moron, satisfied that I've read the bill?

 

Dene Stratton

Mar 26, 2009

Shades of Hitler Youth! How soon we forget.

 

Stella

Mar 26, 2009

Interesting read.

 

Disgusted

Mar 26, 2009

Oh yeah, Dene. Creating programs for dropouts to give back to their communities is Hitlerism in action. I'm surprised Barack doesn't wear a toothbrush mustache. I guess I better pack my bags so I'm ready to get shipped off to Auschwitz and practice my pronunciation of Arbeit Macht Frei. Anyone who seriously believes expanding AmeriCorps will lead to the Fourth Reich should have their voting rights taken away.

 

JB

Mar 26, 2009

Seig Heil! Adolph Obama is here!

 

Bill Hilly

Mar 26, 2009

If anyone paid attention to what Obama said during his campaign (the one for President-not the current one) or even read a synopsis of his books,they should have known what was up before voting!!! I agree that our representatives in Congress are guilty crass stupidity and self serving stupidity. They are a disgrace and do not represent the American people. If someone votes for a bill (read "stimulus") without reading it, they should be barred from holding office.

 

Roxan

Mar 26, 2009

Oh of course, anybody concerned about this is are a bunch of freaks. Well, if it turns out we're right, then what? The German people didn't think at the time anything bad would happen to them, but it did. Shouldn't we have learned from that and at least look at the signs? On the other hand if it turns out we're wrong, then that's great. We can then breathe a huge sigh of relief that we have nothing to worry about and then get on with our lives. Only time will tell, but I really don't like the sounds of this either.

 

Roxan

Mar 26, 2009

Oh of course, anybody concerned about this is are a bunch of freaks. Well, if it turns out we're right, then what? The German people didn't think at the time anything bad would happen to them, but it did. Shouldn't we have learned from that and at least look at the signs? On the other hand if it turns out we're wrong, then that's great. We can then breathe a huge sigh of relief that we have nothing to worry about and then get on with our lives. Only time will tell, but I really don't like the sounds of this either.

 

Jim Evans

Mar 26, 2009

I have always thought that public service should be available for all, vis a vis, the CCC in the World War II era. But not mandatory. Barack Obama has hurried to the fore in this theme, asserting himself as "I am the president!" in such an egregious fashion that should alarm every American living! Jim Evans

 

Mar 26, 2009

"The world has moved on and you're still scrabbling and screaming about conspiracies from the excrement-laden mud". So you think you're going to be a member of the politburo? I got news for you.

 

jo

Mar 26, 2009

this is more alarming to me than all the other stuff

 

Mar 26, 2009

EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FUHRER!! ARBEIT MACHT FREI!!

 

Mar 26, 2009

EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FUHRER!! ARBEIT MACHT FREI!!

 

Dennis Mullalley

Mar 26, 2009

Please post all of congress and senate that voted to pass this

 

jon

Mar 26, 2009

Heil fuhrer Obama ready for world domination.

 

Karenna

Mar 26, 2009

Indoctrination camps!

 

matt

Mar 26, 2009

"Obama is a MARXIST. He's a SOCIALIST. He's just doing what ALL Marxists, and Socialists do. They have STREET GANGS, to do their 'Dirty Work'. We used to call them 'BROWN SHIRTS'" UHH the nazis were AGAINST marxism, you ignorant twit. My GOD why are so many aemricans ignorant? most of you lazy, fat and stupid americans coudln't even point out your own home state on a map, don't even know your own constitution, and like to talk as if you're history buffs. Give me a break. None of you know what fascism is. Go back to watching American idol and drinking your aspartame laden soda pop.

 

Lucius

Mar 26, 2009

This is not American. The naive place their necks willingly into the noose, and drag everybody else down along with them. Support for this is a valid indicator of mental inferiority.

 

Lucius

Mar 26, 2009

This is not American. The naive place their necks willingly into the noose, and drag everybody else down along with them. Support for this is a valid indicator of mental inferiority.

 

Christopher

Mar 26, 2009

While the progress toward what appears to be something bigger and scarier is depressing, take comfort in the fact the government has never really created any massive organization that works well. An organization like this will riddle itself with corruption, the people will lose faith in it and it will disappear. I mean, just place a call to any governmental agency and try to get something accomplished. It should restore your faith in the incompetence of our system. God bless bureaucracies!

 

StandFast8473

Mar 26, 2009

God bless all you people that aren't buying Obama's marxist dribble. You give me hope against hope.

 

Skeet

Mar 26, 2009

America! Wake up ! Or kiss your country goodbye.

 

Waiting to die in Detroit

Mar 26, 2009

Wake up sheeple! This is not about left or right, its about right & wrong! As for you supposed "conservatives" where the hell were you when Bush declared the Constitution to be "just a G..Dam piece of paper!!" and then proceeded to prove it by turning turning the office of the President into something more akin to a third world potentate.To all my "liberal" friends ask yourselves...If a change of course to right the ship of state was the true goal of an Obama Presidency shouldn't an investigation of events of the last eight years to be undoubtedly followed by the indictment's of most of Congress and certainly the Entire Bush administration be the very first thing he did!? The only thing that has changed are the faces you see on your t.v.news. Freedom continues to be on the march! And I continue to wave goodbye!!

 

StandFast8473

Mar 26, 2009

"We must teach our children to hate," Vladimir Lenin instructed his education commissars, declaring that hatred was not only "the basis of communism" but "the basis of every socialist and Communist movement."

 

rsam

Mar 26, 2009

Will they be paid at union wages?

 

nobull

Mar 26, 2009

ill murder the first government snitch i meet

 

StandFast8473

Mar 26, 2009

I can't think of anything more stupid than saying that because Bush spent too much and ran up a debt, Obama should multiply that debt by 4, or because Bush listened into international calls(all legal) Obama should take over whole industries and threaten our very economic freedom, or because Bush... well if you have a half a brain you get the point. If not...

 

derToad

Mar 26, 2009

disgusted: Public school is already an indoctrination camp, almost all empty wasted time. I honestly don't think society could function at all if our kids are dumbed any more. The next bill will say no government student aid until you "volunteer". No drivers license before age 21 unless you "volunteer". We will soon have 2 tiers of kids: those absolutely trained to accept anything the government wants and those who think for themselves and this second group will all be lumped with drug addicts and gang members for special attention from "volunteers".

 

Joe Mersnik, Sr.

Mar 26, 2009

Citizens, Members of Congress from both parties supported Obama’s “Youth Movement” (Americorps) with its compulsory participation of American youth, only 13 senators opposed the bill, and a house fell all over itself in its support. Indoctrination of 250,000 American youths controlled by fanatic Obama extremists now in the White House is a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. Remember, Obama wants and campaigned for a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful and strong and as funded at the regular military. Are the seeds now being planted with the new Obama Americorps? Just imagine the brainwashing of our youth that will take place. One wonders if the brown shirt uniforms have been ordered for Obama’s organization, reminiscent of the Hitler youth. The Americorps should be disbanded now as it’s a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. I wonder, will I now be threatened for speaking out? Joe Mersnik, Sr.

 

Joe Mersnik, Sr.

Mar 26, 2009

Citizens, Members of Congress from both parties supported Obama’s “Youth Movement” (Americorps) with its compulsory participation of American youth, only 13 senators opposed the bill, and a house fell all over itself in its support. Indoctrination of 250,000 American youths controlled by fanatic Obama extremists now in the White House is a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. Remember, Obama wants and campaigned for a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful and strong and as funded at the regular military. Are the seeds now being planted with the new Obama Americorps? Just imagine the brainwashing of our youth that will take place. One wonders if the brown shirt uniforms have been ordered for Obama’s organization, reminiscent of the Hitler youth. The Americorps should be disbanded now as it’s a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. I wonder, will I now be threatened for speaking out? Joe Mersnik, Sr.

 

Joe Mersnik, Sr.

Mar 26, 2009

Members of Congress from both parties supported Obama’s “Youth Movement” (Americorps) with its compulsory participation of American youth, only 13 senators opposed the bill, and a house fell all over itself in its support. Indoctrination of 250,000 American youths controlled by fanatic Obama extremists now in the White House is a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. Remember, Obama wants and campaigned for a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful and strong and as funded at the regular military. Are the seeds now being planted with the new Obama Americorps? Just imagine the brainwashing of our youth that will take place. One wonders if the brown shirt uniforms have been ordered for Obama’s organization, reminiscent of the Hitler youth. The Americorps should be disbanded now as it’s a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. I wonder, will I now be threatened for speaking out? Joe Mersnik, Sr.

 

Joe Mersnik, Sr.

Mar 26, 2009

Members of Congress from both parties supported Obama’s “Youth Movement” (Americorps) with its compulsory participation of American youth, only 13 senators opposed the bill, and a house fell all over itself in its support. Indoctrination of 250,000 American youths controlled by fanatic Obama extremists now in the White House is a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. Remember, Obama wants and campaigned for a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful and strong and as funded at the regular military. Are the seeds now being planted with the new Obama Americorps? Just imagine the brainwashing of our youth that will take place. One wonders if the brown shirt uniforms have been ordered for Obama’s organization, reminiscent of the Hitler youth. The Americorps should be disbanded now as it’s a direct threat to the citizens of the United States. I wonder, will I now be threatened for speaking out? Joe Mersnik, Sr.

 

Mar 26, 2009

Communism!

 

George Hessler

Mar 26, 2009

I agree w/ your commets and the people voting voting, don't understand or don't care what they are voting for

 

ej

Mar 26, 2009

It's time to reset. The Federal government is too corrupt and self involved to lead. We have the Constitution and a Federal Republic of 50 States. We have 50 Governors, 50 State Legislatures, 50 State Supereme Courts, and more than enough state and local banks, businesses and the like. By the wisdom of the framers of the Constitution, provisions are there for the 50 states to clean our Federal house and restore the Constitution to its rightful place. We don't need guns, we have the law.

 

Tom Goss

Mar 26, 2009

What is this National Community Civilian Corps and who voted for it

 

Jesus

Mar 26, 2009

YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU! YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU! YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU! as a free-spirited libertarian (and a combat vet of the US military), this stinks to high heaven. let people volunteer out of personal choice. kind of hard to expect anyone to believe we are a free society if we FORCE people to serve.

 

Dave

Mar 26, 2009

Not only will these "obamatrons" eventually be utilized to go door to door to collect guns from Americans,but this mass of "mandatory volunteers" can then be sent overseas when there just happens to be a dirty bomb attack on one of our cities. Then these American kids can do what our real leaders in Israel want them to-to destroy Israel's enemies for Israel's security at the cost of American lives and American treasure.

 

Freedom 1776

Mar 26, 2009

I remember my high school history teacher had a poster on his wall that said, "those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it">

 

SovereignCitizen

Mar 26, 2009

OPERATION: NANCY "Just say no to tyranny." Zero tolerance for tyranny. No exceptions - No excuses! Just say no to tyranny. http://www.poorwiseman.net

 

Eric Davis

Mar 26, 2009

Our country is in trouble and no one seems to care.

 

MrAmerican

Mar 26, 2009

Well, it won't be long before the brown shirts of the Americorp will march through the towns of America. It won't be long before the "Khmer Rouge" re-education camps pop up... It won't be long before they get cattle cars to move the old Americans, those who remember freedom, to the finial solution... Oh the change we'll get... more than any American ever thought!!!!

 

Sherri

Mar 26, 2009

The government has no business forcing our children to volunteer. Mandatory service is a form of slavery. And the government has no business indoctrinating our children. My family will fight this in court if necessary.

 

Seig Heil

Mar 26, 2009

Sturm Abteilung   /ˈʃtʊərmˈɑpˌtaɪlʊŋ/ [shtoorm-ahp-tahy-loong] –noun a political militia of the Nazi party, organized about 1923 and notorious for its violence and terrorism up to 1934, when it was purged and reorganized as an instrument of physical training and political indoctrination of German men; Brown Shirts. Barak Obama, our Marxist Furher didn't miss his history class, now did he. Fascism is the next step in the evolutionary ladder from Marxism. And we know that Barry made sure to associate with all the good Marxist professors, terrorists (Weather Underground) and the like from the time he was 10 years old. For all you SF libs, SEIG HEIL!

 

danny

Mar 26, 2009

perhaps they will be called " green shirts" very creepy

 

danny

Mar 26, 2009

perhaps they will be called " green shirts" very creepy

 

skubuntalow

Mar 26, 2009

you are all dorks....we have been living in a POLICE STATE for at least 80 years!

 

Adolph

Mar 26, 2009

Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil! Ve haf many vays of makingk you stop all dis' Christianity stuff!!! You vill OBEY!!! ZEIG HEIL!

 

Nagant

Mar 26, 2009

DIGUSTED: No more kool-aid for you! I should have have cut off the spigot, when you began having devine aspirations of sitting at the messiah's right hand. Watch your hemp intake hippie! To all others. Nothing to see here.....Our DEAR LEADER is just formenting his much needed Obama Youth. (I wonder if they'll be issued "Obama Youth" knives?)

 

Kire

Mar 26, 2009

When will all of you wide-eyes Pollyannas realize we're only a couple of clicks away now from the introduction of thought police and mind control? Obama talks a good line, but we as a nation MUST not accept what he says on face value, because so much of what he's done already has contradicted his happy promises and headed us down a path people who truly value freedom should never accept.

 

Kire

Mar 26, 2009

When will all of you wide-eyes Pollyannas realize we're only a couple of clicks away now from the introduction of thought police and mind control? Obama talks a good line, but we as a nation MUST not accept what he says on face value, because so much of what he's done already has contradicted his happy promises and headed us down a path people who truly value freedom should never accept.

 

flyonthewall

Mar 27, 2009

Like JDW said "Wake up America" Every one of our politicians swore an oath to uphold Our Constitution. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

flyonthewall

Mar 27, 2009

Like JDW said "Wake up America" Every one of our politicians swore an oath to uphold Our Constitution and the Laws of this country. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

worrier

Mar 27, 2009

What happens to those who refuse to take part in this nonsense?

 

worrier

Mar 27, 2009

What happens to those who refuse to take part in this nonsense?

 

Stello

Mar 27, 2009

HEY LIBERALS - BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR - THIS IS CHAINS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN . HE SURE FOOLED ALL YOU STUPID IDIOTS!!!

 

Mister Jimmy

Mar 27, 2009

Just like the Hitler Youth, from which Emmanuel took the idea. Obama and Emmanuel will need lots of troops when the wars in Pakistan and Iran begin (and as the current no-win wars for Israel continue.) This will be a source of troops. Obama is already working to end the 1st and 2nd Amendments (Bush did away with the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments) and these kids will be 'graduated' into the armed forces fighting for Israel.

 

Paula Revere

Mar 27, 2009

In case some of you missed it...WE ONLY HAVE ONE PARTY. There is no Rep. no Dem, only the state. We are a Fascist nation. We are allowed to THINK we have rights, and property, when in fact we have neither. Stop paying your taxes, stop sending your children to public school. Teach them instead to question authority. ALL authority. Teach them to think for themselves, to be individuals, and to seek out people of their ilk. REVOLT REVOLT REVOLT!!!!!!!!! Come hell or hihg water I will not "volunteer" for anything, nor will my children. Better to die on my feet, than to live on my knees!!!!!

 

Kris B.

Mar 27, 2009

Will the uniforms be brown, for Hitler, or blue, for the U.N.???

 

A. Fraid

Mar 27, 2009

This bill opens the doors for authoritarians everywhere to put themselves in charge of potentially dictatorial groups with perhaps unlimited power. Frightening.

 

skimmer52

Mar 27, 2009

i wont serve,my kid won,t serve and we will ultimatly undermine this program anyway. the'yll need the money for somthing else

 

L.H. Oswald

Mar 27, 2009

The Germans were way ahead of us, they attemped to kill Hitler over 40 times. How long before Barry Soetoro dodges lead?

 

STNWO

Mar 27, 2009

Support the New World Order!

 

flyonthewall

Mar 27, 2009

Like JDW said "Wake up America" Every one of our politicians swore an oath to uphold The Constitution and the Laws of this country. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

ResearchTheTruth

Mar 27, 2009

People, please do your research, you can read the bill at: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/text The phrase: “a workable, fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.” is nowhere to be found on this bill. The "Youth Engagement Zones" are to be created where service learning is ALREADY a mandatory part of the curriculum. Do your research people, before you get all scared

 

lance sjogren

Mar 27, 2009

The political left fancies itself as a defender of civil liberties, and rightfully protested against abridgements of civil liberties by the Bush administration. Clearly the left is perfectly happy with a Police State, however, so long as the jackbooted stormtroopers are people they think are on their own side. Ironically, independent-thinking leftists would be the first to have their heads chopped off under a Leftist Police State.

 

Mar 27, 2009

regarding this comment: "Oh you poor, scared conservatives. The world has moved on and you're still scrabbling and screaming about conspiracies from the excrement-laden mud. Enjoy your wallowing." I believe the prevailing term for someone expressing that sort of sentiment is "useful idiot".

 

Mar 27, 2009

JUST LOOK AT "FUTURE MANDATORY SERVICE" THIS IS OBAMA'S TEAMS WAY OF TURNING THIS INTO CONSCRIPTION FOR MILITARY SERVICE FOR ALL OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. HE CAN SAVE A LOT OF MONEY BY PAYING DRAFTEES LESS THAN REGULAR MILITARY PERSONNEL AND PREPARE FOR WW III AT THE SAME TIME.

 

Mar 27, 2009

Thanks to all my supporting politicians. Who is going to be the "America" to save US from this Nazi Youth Camp??!!

 

mickey

Mar 27, 2009

Anyone see any brown shirts in this? MANDATORY service? Like MANDATORY income taxes, etc., etc.

 

Lunaursus

Mar 27, 2009

The people in here blaming left and right is sickening. Partisans, get your heads out of your butts! These are neither leftists or rightists...they are a whole different breed that has hijacked your government. You are no longer represented and havent been for many years in DC. These are jackels and hyenas who are neither republicans or democrats! They only wear those masks and posture and put on a dog and pony show for you. They are a third party UNNAMED because to name themselves would scare the hell out of all of you. And they've been in government FOR YEARS AND YEARS working their way in. An apt name for them would be Globalist Fascist Party. Wise up and stop the partisian rhetoric, its nauseating and ignorant.

 

MB

Mar 27, 2009

This is the increase we discussed.

 

jamelll

Mar 27, 2009

Heil Hitler, I mean Obama

 

Sensible in NY

Mar 27, 2009

Do we smell a recreation of the Hilter youth? Hmmm

 

Jim

Mar 27, 2009

The 2 party system, divide and control and all done by the same people. The same ones that will have a solution to the next crisis,which they no doubt will have a hand in creating. Politics is truly the art of lieing and the willingness to be a puppet.

 

Concerned

Mar 27, 2009

If this becomes mandatory for kids in school just wait until we are threatened with arrest, huge fines, or our kids flunking if we refuse. That's already happening when high schooler skip classes. Parents jailed, fined, threatened. Kindergarteners are arrested in this country. Parents lay down and take it. It's just the beginning I'm afraid.

 

Concerned

Mar 27, 2009

If this becomes mandatory for kids in school just wait until we are threatened with arrest, huge fines, or our kids flunking if we refuse. That's already happening when high schooler skip classes. Parents jailed, fined, threatened. Kindergarteners are arrested in this country. Parents lay down and take it. It's just the beginning I'm afraid.

 

KEANI TAYLOR

Mar 27, 2009

CHECK THIS OUT . . .

 

Tyranny Crusher 1

Mar 27, 2009

Tyranny comes in uniform. Let's get past the left-right paradime. The real power structure wants a dictatorship. This is the start of totalitarian regime begins. The state doesn't own you. This echos many of the totalitarian systems funded by extreme bankers and financial oligarchs. Don't up give your liberty for security because you will get neither.Chose freedom or tyranny.

 

xz

Mar 27, 2009

it doesn't say what kind of service -

 

xz

Mar 27, 2009

it doesn't say what kind of service -

 

Truely concerned

Mar 28, 2009

POSTED Mar 26, 2009 Thomas: "The media hasn't said a word about the so-called REX 84 Internment camps that are located all over the country. These come complete with gas chambers and cremation ovens . HITLER WOULD BE PROUD!!" Thomas: you didn't mention the rail road cars with shackels installed already....That"s why most Fema camps have rail access.

 

Truely concerned

Mar 28, 2009

POSTED Mar 26, 2009 Thomas: "The media hasn't said a word about the so-called REX 84 Internment camps that are located all over the country. These come complete with gas chambers and cremation ovens . HITLER WOULD BE PROUD!!" Thomas: you didn't mention the rail road cars with shackels installed already....That"s why most Fema camps have rail access.

 

Mar 28, 2009

nazism at its best! obama has to go!!!!!!!!!!

 

Dave.

Mar 28, 2009

matt: Mar 26, 2009 "UHH the nazis were AGAINST marxism, you ignorant twit." "None of you know what fascism is." I guess you really need to look at history too. Fascism & communism are virtually indistinguishable from each other! The aims are identical! CONTROL! CONTROL! CONTROL! Dave.

 

Mark

Mar 28, 2009

Just like Hitler

 

Mark

Mar 28, 2009

Just like Hitler

 

obummer's Gestapo

Mar 28, 2009

see the DVD "Gestapo,Hitler's Secret Police"Eagle Rock Entertainment ISBN 1-932769-43-9,eaglerockent.com See many frightening parallels to obummer's plan for the national "volnteer" force

 

Mar 28, 2009

Anybody that even THINKS this idea could be considered, has their head so far up their nether parts they couldn't see daylight by using dynamite.

 

mike caton

Mar 29, 2009

SIEG !!!

 

Irate

Mar 29, 2009

Hitler's brownshirts are not far behind. And Lenin's commisars. We could see this coming for over a year. Where is the GOP? Where is Newt Gingrich?

 

jj

Mar 29, 2009

Previous poster- You are the type of person that America doesn't need. Go wallow in your own mud.

 

jj

Mar 29, 2009

Previous poster- You are the type of person that America doesn't need. Go wallow in your own mud.

 

worldlymom

Mar 29, 2009

$5.7 billion - for what? I am truly frightened that this mandatory directive is a disguised scheme to educate the youth of America in far left liberal doctrines. If we loose freedom of choice, we have lost democracy.

 

worldlymom

Mar 29, 2009

$5.7 billion - for what? I am truly frightened that this mandatory directive is a disguised scheme to educate the youth of America in far left liberal doctrines. If we loose freedom of choice, we have lost democracy.

 

Brook

Mar 29, 2009

Disgusted, maybe you should read Obama's book where he explicitly states Marxists were his friends of choice in college and dedicated the book to Frank Marshal Davis -- a raving Marxist civil rights leader. When you claim a Marxist as your mentor, it's kind of hard to get away from the label. Oh, and the originator of "yes, we can" -- Che Guevara.

 

ely

Mar 29, 2009

The brown shirts are coming to a city near you!

 

Bilhelm

Mar 29, 2009

"poor scared conservatives". no, but the son of parents who had to serve mandatory service in grade school and then national work service after graduation. Although in Hitler's Germany where my father did his compulsory service it was called the Jungvolk, the Hitler Youth and the Arbeits Dienst. One needn't be conservative to fear totalitarian rule under the guise of "national unity" put together under the cry of "national crisis". To the previous poster - perhaps you would have been completely comfortable with "national service" run by George Bush. Oh, then I suppose we'd cry "you poor scared liberals. you see the world has moved on". Pull the "excrement laden mud" from between your ears.

 

Delta Mike

Mar 29, 2009

The essence of Fascism is the organizing and mobilization of society to do the will of the charismatic "Leader", be it Chairman Mao, Adolph Hitler, or now Hussein Obama.

 

Delta Mike

Mar 29, 2009

The essence of Fascism is the organizing and mobilization of society to do the will of the charismatic "Leader", be it Chairman Mao, Adolph Hitler, or now Hussein Obama.

 

Sara

Mar 29, 2009

I see the partisan battling is still going on. Imagine how easy it is for an enemy to conquer when he divides, or widens the divide. So, what are you sheep going to do about it? I see a lot of crying, and screaming, and gnashing of teeth, but little discussion in the way of how to prevent a repeat of history. I guess when the come for the children, if I do nothing, they will come for me eventually. And you. It is difficult to unseat a tyranical dictator once he is in the seat. So, what are you going to do?

 

Aceplace

Mar 29, 2009

Although your calendar might read 2009, this Americorps bill tells us all that it is really "1984".

 

Adrian

Mar 29, 2009

This is just another form of a/h obama (I can not even captilize his name) and his direction leading to socialism and nazi germany tactics by hitler. America is in DEEP TROUBLE.

 

Zztops51

Mar 30, 2009

This and now today Our Fearless Leader has effectively nationalized the Auto Industry. Fascism is here. Next will be guns. Heil Obama oh Merciful One!

 

shel

Mar 30, 2009

Americorps was created by Bush...where were all you protesters then? Until you realize both the republican party and democratic party are both corrupted arms of the corporate establishment, you will just be going in circles. Each party produces more government, just different aras of government. Vote libertarian or keep seeing the same BS...

 

FT

Mar 31, 2009

Service Guarantees Citizenship! Would you like to know more?

 

FT

Mar 31, 2009

Service Guarantees Citizenship! Would you like to know more?

 

End school attendance laws!

Mar 31, 2009

Most kids are already forced to waste years in Government Indoctrination and Obedience-Training Centers! If people here really want to protect kids from government-enforced slavery, they should be working to eliminate school attendance laws!

 

ScaredofObama

Mar 31, 2009

"Obama Youth" has a real nice ring to it!

 

swattek

Mar 31, 2009

"The man who speaks to you of service and sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master." -Ayn Rand

 

marvin Sinclair

Apr 1, 2009

I can't wait to get my brown shirt.

 

becky

Apr 1, 2009

i fail to see how this could possibly be a threat to anyone's civil liberties...except in the minds of the far right. of course, wiretapping of american's phones is never a thread to civil liberties...

 

becky

Apr 1, 2009

i fail to see how this could possibly be a threat to anyone's civil liberties...except in the minds of the far right. of course, wiretapping of american's phones is never a thread to civil liberties...

 

Nana

Apr 1, 2009

Visited the Polish and German concentratioon camps this summer. Wake up red blooded Americans; we are not too far behind following another crazied leader. Think Americans and read both sides of the news in order to fully understand what is happening in the world. G 20 ought to be another wake up call for us!

 

Nana

Apr 1, 2009

Visited the Polish and German concentratioon camps this summer. Wake up red blooded Americans; we are not too far behind following another crazied leader. Think Americans and read both sides of the news in order to fully understand what is happening in the world. G 20 ought to be another wake up call for us!

 

Kenkoy

Apr 1, 2009

The REAL danger with mandatory civilian service is that eventually a right-wing group of thugs will come into power and use it for their ends.

 

Miako

Apr 2, 2009

No measurable goals? I served my country, and did it while collecting foodstamps because I was being paid insufficiently. I helped people learn to read. Other folks helped people speak english, or learn to use computers. These are concrete goals that the gov't supports.

 

Teddy

Apr 2, 2009

I know of two kids who will be AWOL from Obama's civilian army

 

tahDeetz

Apr 2, 2009

SFLiberal13, My fellow American, you are the definition of well-reasoned Classic Liberal that has an open mind and that probably enjoys true debate. As a conservative/libertarian, I thank you.

 

tere

Apr 3, 2009

Most developed countries have a service corps of young people who chose not to go into the military. GIven the self centeredness we have taught our youth, giving to others as volunteers in nursing homes, child care centers and homeless shelters can perhaps give them the opportunity to learn the value of sleflessness and the value of every life, no matter how old, disabled or unsuccessful. We have lost our values in this country, and me me me isn't it. Not for Christians.

 

Apr 3, 2009

This is Hitler Youth and succeeding Nazi organizations all over again. Communists including Cuba today start indocrinating youngsters in their beliefs. Dont let Obama do this.

 

Apr 3, 2009

This is Hitler Youth and succeeding Nazi organizations all over again. Communists including Cuba today start indocrinating youngsters in their beliefs. Dont let Obama do this.

 

AP

Apr 3, 2009

If we won't save ourselves, let us pray to GOD for help and enlightenment. Our demise is closer and closer from the ignorance of our elected officials who will not be in office after this term.

 

VET

Apr 3, 2009

SOME TIME BACK THE SAME TYPE OF ORGINIZATION WAS CALLED THE SS

 

David K

Apr 7, 2009

Clearly the problem with fascism as practiced by the Nazis was not that it was fascism, but was that it was the WRONG KIND of fascism.

 

crusade

Jun 1, 2009

Anyone reaady to wake up yet?The Jews knew what was coming but didn't take it seriously until they couldn't.
Time for people to wake up and look around.
Unless you want to be part of the new national army....
Has anyone bothered to ask what a second standing army might be for?
Money,power and authority of the military we already have?Why the hell is no one even bothering to question this....
Whats tha matter Olbermouth got your tounge?

 

Cotter

Jun 10, 2009

I served in AmeriCorps before most of the funding was cut by the Bush White House ( which made since at the time). But I can say from personal experience, AmeriCorps is a good thing. It inspires and actively involves young Americans, most of whom wouldn't have served their country. Having subsequently served in the Army, I'm sure that the service ethic that brought me to the Army was instilled in me during my time in AmeriCorps. I know it sounds earthy-crunchy, but AmeriCorps did me a lot of good and personally, I'm glad its getting more funding.

 

Aug 17, 2009

Whoa!Many countries require service for their young people either civil or military. It is desirable to have people in your military who are there because they have to be. An Army that consist of only professional soilders is a threat to democracy. Professional military people tend to get strange ideas in their heads like bringing order to government. Civil service alternatives to military service require young adults to serve their country in a non military function. I don't see the problem with requiring young adults to make a sacrifice for their country. Where is all this reeducation clap-trap coming from? The same nuts who believe in death panels and fake birth certificates?

 

James Taylor

Oct 8, 2009

Electronics Logos | Education Logos | Computer Logos

 

James Taylor

Oct 8, 2009

Automobiles Logo | Communication Logo

 


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