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August 10, 2009

The future of transit: Mountain View-based Unimodal hopes to have an working example of its SkyTran system set up at NASA Ames Research Center in about 18 months. (Courtesy photo)

SAN FRANCISCO — Imagine zipping along Geary Boulevard at 100 mph in a small, egg-shaped pod suspended on elevated cables instead of chugging along on the 38-Geary Muni bus.

Sounds like an episode of “The Jetsons,” but the idea to create an aboveground electric transit system in The City that, unlike Muni, wouldn’t have to compete with traffic has been pitched to the Municipal Transportation Agency.

The so-called SkyTran system, which uses magnetic fields to propel pods, would taxi commuters between portals, not stations, via cables elevated 8 to 15 feet above roadways, according to Unimodal, the Mountain View-based company that’s developing the project.

Only two people can fit in each pod, but the vehicles can run along the cables a half-second apart, potentially carrying the capacity of a three-lane highway, the company said.

SkyTran is billed as a “personal rapid transit” system, “a fast, hyper-efficient car you don’t need to drive or park,” according to Unimodal.

Like any type of public transit, you could walk to the nearest stop and hop in an available pod. You’d be able to enter a destination via voice or touchscreen, and would also be able to check e-mail on your laptop along the way, the company said.

Ideally, the cable guideway would be built like a highway, with long, speedy portions along major thoroughfares like Geary Boulevard or Van Ness Avenue and with turnoffs into neighborhoods or downtown side streets that act like off-ramps and command slower speeds.

There would be enough pods operating frequently that one would be available upon commuters arriving at pickup points 98.5 percent of the time, said John Cole, Unimodal’s chief operating officer.

Even faster connections closer to 200 mph could whiz passengers between The City and major airports, Cole said.

SkyTran has also been suggested to Caltrans officials as an alternative to highways and high-speed rail, he said.

The company is also hoping transit officials in Marin County, Los Angeles and New Orleans will consider the modern system.

The idea may seem far-fetched, but a short version of the transit system will likely be ready for viewing in about 18 months, Cole said. By then, the company hopes to show off the system on a 1,000-foot loop at the NASA Ames Research Center in Mountain View, he said.

“[The pods] are very small, very lightweight and cheap to build,” Cole said. A single pod might only weigh around 1,000 pounds, according to Unimodal.

The idea comes at a time when transit officials are willing to look at any mass transit idea beyond what’s currently available. Bay Area roadways are becoming increasingly congested as the region’s population grows. And while many drivers are switching to mass transit, most local transit agencies are operating on structural deficits, lacking adequate funds to run buses and trains, fix aging infrastructures and expand systems.

SkyTran would be an expensive initial investment, but would ultimately be cheaper than building upon current transit systems and roadways, Cole said.

A mile’s worth of cable guideway would cost between $7 million and $10 million, the company said. The bill for that same distance for freeways is anywhere between $35 million and $100 million, and for light-rail trackways the cost can be as much as $50 million per mile, according to a company report citing the National Transit Database.

Futuristic travel concept becoming reality

A South Bay company has met with Municipal Transportation Agency officials — and officials in other cities — to pitch an electric mass transit system suspended above traffic. Company officials claim the pods:

  • Can travel as fast as 100 mph in cities and 150 mph between cities, with no traffic jams or parking hassles
  • Can travel above roads and walkways
  • Are locked into the track and cannot derail
  • Hang from thin, elevated guideways, riding on magnets instead of tires
  • Use a tenth of the energy of a typical automobile
  • Run on guideways with the capacity of a three-lane freeway and can be built in weeks at a fifth of the cost of light rail or freeways
  • Have a cost of $10 million per mile for one-way track and $15 million per mile for two-way track
  • Automatically detect any obstacle in their path

Source: SkyTran.net

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PRT Strategies

Aug 10, 2009

For more on Personal Rapid Transit in California: www.prtstrategies.com.

 

Mr_Grant

Aug 10, 2009

Correction: SkyTran (like other Personal Rapid Transit) would use a rigid guideway, not "cables".

see GetThereFast.org

 

David

Aug 10, 2009

PRT is a joke. It's like a car...only it requires an unsightly aerial structure and doesn't get one directly from Point A to Point B. And the design is far too inefficient to be compared to mass transit, despite the developer's best efforts. I can't believe the Examiner wasted its time writing this junk!

 

lyqwyd

Aug 10, 2009

David, you don't know what you are talking about. PRT can get you closer to your destination than the bus without transfers, and do it much faster. It can get you anywhere on the network without stopping for lights or other vehicles.

Depending on the system the vehicles are 10-50 times more efficient than private autos, and more efficient than buses when you factor in that during offpeak times or on lesser used routes buses run mostly empty (even in SF).

 

Greg

Aug 10, 2009

@David

Can you provide any support for saying "the design is far too inefficient to be compared to mass transit"? The article makes some statements that sure makes it seem like it would be far better than mass transit. Why should I believe your griping if you don't give me any reason to?

 

Greg

Aug 10, 2009

I think the only way this makes sense is as a complete replacement for existing mass transit. As such, here are my concerns...

Two people per pod doesn't seem to cut it. What if my wife wants to use one with our two young sons (stroller, etc)? How can they all fit? I think these have to carry four people at a minimum.

Accessibility. The concept drawings don't have any wheelchair access. They'd have to include some sort of lift at each portal, which would significantly impact cost.

 

LoRemz

Aug 10, 2009

I agree with Greg on the size and accessibility issues. As a woman I would also fear riding with a strange man.

 

DanHomerick

Aug 10, 2009

@LoRemz: You wouldn't be forced to share a ride with anyone. The "Personal" in "Personal Rapid Transit" is because one of the goals is to give you car-like privacy (and better than car travel times) in a mass transit system.

Safer and WAY more efficient than cars, available 24/7, and travels non-stop straight to your destination station... it tries to blend the best of both mass transit and the auto. It's pretty cool.

 

PRTGuru

Aug 10, 2009

Visit www.prtconsulting.com to learn more about PRT - information, videos, links, etc.

 

Bengt

Aug 11, 2009

There are numerous other offerings for PRT besides SkyTran. Most of these have larger cabins for up to four and provide wheelchair and stroller access.

Some of these systems are being deployed or have completed designs:

www.beamways.com
www.ultraprt.com
www.vectusprt.com
www.2getthere.eu

 

Interurbans

Aug 12, 2009

I thought that San Francisco’s Hate Ashbury days were over many years ago. But who ever came up with this fantasy must be also experimenting with some pretty potent chemicals. This is totally unworkable and can only be a plan to extract funding from gullible victims. If it is so wonderful where can we have a chance to ride it to see all of its advantages? Not only do they not have a “proven” working system, they don’t even have a working model. Yet they want “us” to put money into their scheme. Please give us a break and go away so that something that can work is implanted into the very busy Geary corridor such as an extension of the 4th St subway to the beach out Geary and or Balboa.

 

lyqwyd

Aug 14, 2009

Interurbans, the system you will have a chance to ride is being built at Heathrow airport, it's not the same system as skytran, but it is the same concept.

I'm all for a subway up geary out to the beach, but even if that's built, PRT could be built in SF to work in conjunction with whatever system we have. It's not an either/or proposition, PRT can work just fine with other systems.

 

myturnagain

Aug 19, 2009

Every concept discussed about this transit system uses proven available technology. I cannot for the life of me understand all the naysayers. Most of you must be union workers on conventional mass transit that has the most to lose.

 

Lee Sand Walker

Aug 21, 2009

Skytran is just one of many advanced transit technologies available but ignored by the U.S. govt. for years, and Skytran is not the most efficient OR versatile.

For America to regain the lead in transportation technology, the U.S. must guarantee about $5-10b for cities/counties/states to study, plan, and approve modern advanced transit systems, some of which are listed at http://uw.4trams.org
100 local govts. should choose locations for advanced transit test/demonstration projects, and the U.S. will approve them so the new technology can actually develop and the U.S. can cut our oil dependence and economic insecurity.

(automated transit like skytran or Oakland-based http://Cybertran.com is FAR more efficient than any transportation with wasteful rubber tires, drivers/extra weight, or risk of collisions.)

Please do an article explaining how the U.S. economy cannot recover until our auto-caused dependence on scarce oil is solved.


 

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Jan 14, 2010


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