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‘Frisco Five’ on hunger strike to protest SF police brutality

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(Photos by Jessica Christian/S.F. Examiner)

A grandmother. Two rappers. A supervisorial candidate. An educator. The oldest is 66; the youngest 29.

What this handful of activists — dubbed the “Frisco Five”— has in common is a refusal to eat. Since the beginning of their fast on April 21, the hunger strikers’ tents and stacked bottles of water and juice have turned the sidewalk in front of San Francisco’s Mission Police Station into a scene of protest.

They say they won’t eat until Police Chief Greg Suhr is fired or resigns.

Meanwhile, Suhr this week stated he has no intention of resigning, and Mayor Ed Lee has voiced his support for the chief as the point man for use of force and bias policing reforms — even as pressure continues to mount for Suhr to leave his post.

The hunger strikers’ efforts sprang from outrage at violence within the ranks of the San Francisco Police Department — made all the more pressing in the wake of two fatal police shootings in the last six months.

Mario Woods was shot by a group of police in the Bayview in December. Earlier this month, Luis Gongora was also fatally shot by SFPD. The two killings, along with a series of scandals of racism in the ranks, have spawned a protest movement that continues to pressure city leaders to root out bias and police brutality.

Sellassie Blackwell, 39
Born at St. Luke’s hospital, Blackwell grew up in the Fillmore, Hunters Point and Ingleside in a family of longtime San Franciscans. His mom worked in local government and his dad was “rogue.”
They lived in rough neighborhoods, but he was saved from the street because of his political consciousness; black power had always been a theme in his home. As a rapper, he says he was best known for his “Stop Hating in The Bay” campaign.

Ike Pinkston, 42
Pinkston was raised in San Francisco — from the Fillmore to Hunters Point to the Mission — with his half brother by fairly apolitical parents. His father worked for the housing authority and his mom works at the airport.
“I haven’t really talked to my parents about this,” said Pinkston, who attended J. Eugene McAteer High School and now works at a preschool. With two children of his own, both not yet teens, he worries for their safety in The City.

Ilyich Sato, 42
Born at St. Luke’s Hospital, Sato was raised by a Colombian mother (and another hunger striker) and jazz DJ father, Art Sato who has a show on KPFA called “In Your Ear.”
Sato — a local rapper known as Equipto — says he grew up at protests. His mother took part in a vigil decades ago outside the Colombian consulate to protest human rights abuses in her country. But it was his father who brought hip hop to his young ears. Sato was named after Bolshevik leader Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

Edwin Lindo, 29
Born in St. Luke’s Hospital like many of his compatriots, Lindo was raised in Bernal Heights and the Mission by his father, a Nicaraguan.
Coming from a country ruled by a dictator, Lindo said his father explicitly knew the importance of politics.
A law school graduate and education equity consultant, Lindo is now running for supervisor in District 9.
“I am very aware that this is political suicide,” he said of the hunger strike.

Maria Cristina Gutierrez, 66
Originally from Cali, Colombia, Gutierrez has lived in San Francisco for decades and raised her two children here, one of whom is another hunger striker.
Gutierrez is the executive director of the Compañeros del Barrio preschool in the Mission. As a child she had to flee her home because of her father’s union organizing work.
Her father, Luis Alberto Gutierrez, would be proud of her action, she said. She came to San Francisco in 1968 to study but stayed after meeting her former husband.

Editor’s Note: This story has been updated from its original version.

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  • Hardy Stevenson

    Isn’t a hunger strike a bit like a child holding their breath?

  • lulubella

    No, no it’s not. A child holding it’s breath is our police department and Mayor’s office ignoring citizen outrage over their antics (brutality, selling the City out to the highest bidder, respectively) in hopes that it will go away. “La la la, I can’t hear you.”

  • Mark Lewis

    Don’t call it Frisco.

  • Paul Bearer

    Pathetic.

    Why don’t they go protest in Hunters Point where black on black shootings and stabbings occur daily.

  • Paul Bearer

    “In addition to supplements and coconut water, the protesters said they drink chicken broth and electrolyte-infused water”

    What kind of hunger strike protesters are these? Oh, please.

  • Zippster

    Their message:

    People should be allowed to disobey police orders and lunge at them with knives

  • MsOakilland

    Not heroes, just zeros.

  • odessa

    all I have to save is that anorexia is serious issue! C U LTR

  • Justice4Nieto

    Well said lulubella

  • SFNative

    Unfortunately nothing will change, until (hopefully) Ed Lee is taken away in handcuffs.

  • sffoghorn

    A hunger strike is a sign of weakness, but it does raise visibility. Hopefully this act of desperation will catalyze the kind of organizing required to do the heavy lift of breaking the POA, requiring cops to live close to the City and removing Suhr from power.

  • Kwash

    Typical….total hypocrites….not even a real hunger strike. Ghandi must be rolling in his grave.

  • FuzzmanX

    Right, so the City is the parent ignoring the child having the tantrum. Keep up the good work.

  • FuzzmanX

    It cannot possibly. And not sure why any of the stuff you mention matters. You wanna be the police chief or mayor?

  • FuzzmanX

    Oh no, five dirty people are binging on electrolytes and coconut water! Quickly, give them whatever they want. I’m compelled by there desperation and lack of a convincing argument. XP

  • sffoghorn

    Nothing is impossible. The SFPD is not gaining in popularity. This remains a democracy. That is why the SFPD has had to engage in a PR campaign to buff up their image. They need a bigger boat.

  • D_burr

    What a group. “Im well aware this is political suicide”….uhhh, not in the district youre running in dudeee. Keep exaggerating everything. Youre participating in a fairly common form of protest for a cause you agree with. No ones going to crucify you. I’d also hesitate to say that pressure is mounting for Suhr to step down…presure is on the “the frisco five” to continue striking, their supporters are coming out and more media is reporting with each day they continue. Can we get an actual city wide survey done, ya know, asking all San Franciscans what they think about Suhr? Going to the mario woods coalition and a group of hunger strikers to get an opinion on the police that you then deem as the public consensus is absurd. Ask San Franciscans, from Hunters Point to Ocean Beach and from Vis Valley to the Presidio if they think Suhr should resign over this. Maybe youre new to the city but the silent majority here are not attention seeking idiots. Do the survey.

  • Randy F.

    A.N.S.W.E.R.Coalition organized..

  • Jake148

    Let them starve, who cares, free loaders are out of control. Use your night stick Officer if they come after you.

  • PennsylvaniaSage

    It appears the Progressive social experiment is beginning to fail. How can a city run by such a liberal group have such a shameful police department? Where is the leadership?

  • mitchbetterhavemybunny

    where did you see they were drinking broth? Regardless, if they’re drinking juice and electrolytes, it’s really not much of a sacrifice until they’re many weeks in. Broth + juice would keep someone alive and healthy indefinitely. Why not throw in smoothies and protein shakes?

  • R94110

    Where cops live has nothing to do with anything

  • R94110

    SFPD is very popular, outside of narrow left-wing circles and those who seek to weaken the police to advance their criminal intentions

  • falldierise

    Police homicide is a growing national public health crisis that needs to be acknowledged by institutions with the power and responsibility to effect positive systemic changes to address this epidemic.

  • R94110

    Uh huh

  • R94110

    Yes, people were bringing them sustenance, so it’s really not a hunger strike at all. Just a cheap piece of showmanship

  • R94110

    Citizens are not outraged. A small minority of leftist agitators are outraged

  • sffoghorn

    Where cops live has everything to do with everything.

  • sffoghorn

    That is why the POA has to spend money on a PR campaign to burnish up public opinion of the SFPD, because the cops are popular.

  • R94110

    Why? Does your employer have an opinion on where you live?

  • R94110

    Lots of unions spend money for political purposes. SEIU are much worse – go after them

  • R94110

    The anti-police mob won’t do a real survey because that would reveal that most voters support SFPD, and that the complaints are coming from a small vocal minority with an axe to grind.

  • sffoghorn

    I am not a first responder.

  • sffoghorn

    We’re talking about the POA now and how they have to run a PR campaign to boost their flagging popularity. That means they don’t want to actually change the things that make the SFPD unpopular, rather that they want to change public perception that these unpopular things are not that bad.

  • R94110

    Cops do not respond from their home. They are already no duty. Their commute does not affect their availability.

  • R94110

    Then they behave like every other union – they single mindedly look after the interests of their members.

    Why do you hate public sector unions? What do you have against SEIU? How about them Teamsters?

  • R94110

    It’s a “Chicken Soup for the Oppressed Soul” hunger strike.

  • R94110

    There’s too much crime there. Someone would steal their chicken broth

  • R94110

    Reminds me of Occupy:

    “Stick it to the man by not showering”. That will teach them.

  • sffoghorn

    We’ll be pressing first responders into overtime during the next quake like we did during the last quake.

  • sffoghorn

    The SEIU does not run PR campaigns to boost their popularity. Nor do the Teamsters.

    Then again, SEIU members and Teamsters don’t go off murdering civilians with impunity and get paid good money for not protecting us from violent and property crimes.

  • granddad1

    Tents and stacks of water and other drinks on the sidewalk in front of the station. What is this another homeless settlement? What facilities, if any, are they using? Move them along this is loitering.

  • Chris Houston ✓Trump

    Sato was named after Bolshevik leader Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.
    Gee no wonder he is involved in this movement.
    Bolshevik Revolution 2.0
    how many people did they kill?
    Stop the hate, what a joke!
    These people need to be put in prison, they encourage kids to tat themselves up join this movement and thereby destroy their own lives and futures.
    These kids are unaware that they are disposable useful idiots.

  • Chris Houston ✓Trump

    That’s the first leftist control of speech one hears upon moving to San Francisco, that always pissed me off.
    Who are they to dictate?

  • Chris Houston ✓Trump

    It’s the old Bolsheviks that recruit these kids, they are at every antiwar protest passing out “workers of the world” crap. The kids have no idea what this really is.

    The same people who sat around talking about revolution in NYC in teens are doing it again.

    Wasn’t it that Bolshevik Saul Alinsky who dedicated his book “Rules for Radicals” to Lucifer “The original revolutionary” Yeah, that’s it.

    Alinsky taught “that the task of the radical is to turn middle class people against themselves, to make them instruments of their own destruction,” and that the four steps to accomplishing that goal are polarization, demonization, organization and deception.

  • R94110

    All unions spend money for political ends. While their tactics may vary, the principle does not. It makes no sense to support SEIU when they do it but not POA.

  • websamurai

    What leadership? Their only interest is getting a big fat paycheck.

  • R94110

    During special events and situations, different Bay Area police departments help each other out. In an earthquake we’d have state police, federal marshalls and probably the national guard.

    Anyway that is merely an operational issue that management can handle. You wants SF cops to live in SF for ideological reasons, because you think it will be easier to politically manipulate them, and that’s why you’re wrong

  • websamurai

    Their salary is paid with your taxes.

  • R94110

    I pay the wages of lots of city workers but do not feel the need to control what choices they make in their spare time

  • websamurai

    Suhr can’t wait to arrest these people, to him they are just a nuisance.

  • R94110

    Why bother? Their path is self-destructive. Just wait and they will go away, one way or the other

  • Randy F.

    Sounds more like the 5 day ‘ prep ‘ diet for a colonoscopy exam .

  • websamurai

    If they work in their town, they care more.

  • sffoghorn

    After a big quake, I’d wager that most voters would want their first responders living close enough to be able to first respond when transportation infrastructure is damaged. And I think that most voters would prefer that first responders live in the City they work in, especially given the SFPD’s record of spewing venom and contempt towards San Franciscans like you do.

  • R94110

    You may well think that the voters believe that. But there is no evidence that they do.

    Most people think like me that where you live relative to your work location is a matter of personal choice and operational management, and not an ideological issue.

    Which is why the issue rarely comes up.

  • R94110

    Why?

  • sffoghorn

    The reason why it rarely comes up is political corruption that intimidates otherwise lazy “progressive ” politicians.

  • sffoghorn

    Unions spend money to achieve goals other than pulling their public image out of a toilet.

  • Dash Cam

    Ignorance and trolls are particularly THICK on this subject. Time to spotlight reality.

    Greg Suhr is a dishonest, creepy, racist and completely biased individual. He has no business being chief of anything, let alone the SFPD. For those trolls here and on other news feeds who have pea brains and have forgotten this guy’s record, glad to remind you. Just look at the SF Weekly’s article titled, “The Many Scandals of Police Chief Greg Suhr,” and you’ll understand the purpose of these individuals bravely doing what they’re doing.

    To further illustrate something you trolls might not realize, SFPD has gunned down white folks too. Namely a mentally ill person in her group home. Look it up and smell the corruption that everyone who’s lived here in the bay area and isn’t some transplant who’ll be gone next week knows.

  • john doe

    OMG Now that is FUNNY!

  • john doe

    OMG again…very funny! Love it!

  • Paul Bearer

    Sfgate.

  • R94110

    No, it hardly ever comes up because there is no interest.

  • R94110

    Unions spend money on whatever makes them look good

  • sffoghorn

    The SEIU for all of its faults does not spend money on a PR campaign to bolster its public image.

  • sffoghorn

    We can deduce that the POA is concerned that its power to dominate elected officials might not be sufficient to forestall accountability reforms due to its decision to engage in a PR campaign to burnish its flagging public image.

  • R94110

    You can deduce (or rather, infer) what you like. But there is no evidence for it, otherwise you would have provided evidence

  • R94110

    It spends to further its own interests and that of its members. So no different.

  • sffoghorn

    The POA does that and it does polling that tells the POA that the SFPD has an image problem that their political consultants say can be solved by a PR campaign. PR campaigns are probably cheaper than the POA changing its ways.

  • Frank Micko

    What is the accepted social currency in nearing starvation for people who don’t care about you that are supported by their peers, and in most cases, local gov’t? How does this get coverage via corporate media in a country where half its self-identified liberals show apathy for both impoverishment & racial justice?

  • R94110

    All institutions like to burnish their image including public sector unions

  • sffoghorn

    So you admit that the public image of the POA is deficient since the POA is running an ad campaign to burnish its image while the SEIU is not. If the POA is viewed unfavorably then they are risk of losing an election on their crime spree.

  • R94110

    I admit that every union seeks to upgrade its brand

  • sffoghorn

    But only the POA is spending money to convince San Franciscans that their opinions of the POA are wrong, no other union is doing that. This is because San Franciscans have correctly assessed the POA and the POA prefers to try to change public opinion than their criminal ways.

  • R94110

    All unions spend money to make themselves look better

  • sffoghorn

    SEIU does not spend money to bolster its public image neither does Local 21 because those unions might not be loved, but they are not despised by the populace. I bet the POA is paying you by the response.

  • sffoghorn

    The evidence speaks for itself. The POA is the only union expending resources to try to convince the populace that its members are not violent criminals.

  • R94110

    All unions spend money to make themselves look better or be more effective. You dont get to cherry pick

  • R94110

    All unions spend money to further their agenda.

  • sffoghorn

    But no other SF public employee union has to spend money to convince voters that its members are not members of a criminal gang.

  • sffoghorn

    Yes, because no other union spends to conceal their crimes.

  • R94110

    All unions seek to present a positive image

  • R94110

    They all spend money to make their members look like choirboys

  • sffoghorn

    I’ve only seen TV ads boosting the SFPD once their racist crime spree kept putting them into the headlines. The POA has to act because it has overplayed its hands but it is reacting in a cop-typical ham handed way.

  • sffoghorn

    But not all unions run TV propaganda to that effect like the POA does.

  • R94110

    Ah, so your real problem is that POA are effective?

  • R94110

    If you have evidence of criminal activity you need to go to the DA and not whine on anonymous chatrooms

  • sffoghorn

    They are paying you by the post, aren’t they?

    Career Highlights of Gregory P. Suhr

    1997: MARK GARCIA KILLING: Garcia dies while restrained by Mission officers under Lieutenant Suhr. SF Office of Citizen Complaints upholds Garcia family complaint, finds misconduct, and attempts to reform SFPD misconduct policies. SFPD Chief refuses the findings; no officer is disciplined; Suhr promoted to Captain.

    2002 MLK DAY MISCONDUCT: SF Police Commission pursues misconduct charges against 5 Bayview officers under Captain Suhr. Two girls, 12 and 14 years old, win “improper search” civil rights lawsuit against 2 officers who groped them; 14 year old boy who tried to protect them receives 11 stitches and dislocated shoulder.

    2003 FAJITAGATE: Suhr is indicted for conspiring to obstruct the investigation of three off-duty cops who assaulted a man over a bag of fajitas. The indictment is eventually thrown out of court and he walks free.

    2005 DEMOTION 1: Suhr, Head of Patrol, is demoted to guarding the city’s water supply, for mishandling a protest.

    2009 DEMOTION 2: Captain Suhr is again demoted after failing to file a female acquaintance’s domestic violence report.

    04/2011 APPOINTED CHIEF: Mayor Lee selects Suhr as Chief of San Francisco Police Department.

    07/2011 KENNETH HARDING KILLING: Multiple witness state SFPD shot Harding in the back while fleeing a Muni fare evasion. Suhr announced to the press that Harding shot himself. Video shows SFPD watching Harding die on the pavement. In 2012, Harding’s mother sues the City and Suhr for denying medical care to her son, and a settlement is reached.

    05/2013 $725K LAWSUIT: Suhr is sued by an SFPD lawyer for firing her, after she recommended firing him for skirting the law. The lawsuit was settled in March 2015; SF spendt almost $1.5 million defending Suhr.

    11/2013 OFF-DUTY OFFICER VICTIM OF SFPD RACIAL PROFILING: Officer Lorenzo Adamson sues the city and Chief Suhr for racial profiling and being put into a carotid chokehold by 3 officers during a traffic stop. A settlement was reached.

    2014 DRUG LAB SCANDAL: Thousands of criminal cases are jeopardized by drug skimming in the City Crime Lab; a whistleblower says Suhr was aware of it for years.

    01/2014 OFFICER ON TRIAL FOR CHILD MOLESTATION: Richard Hastings, who received a Medal of Valor for shooting Kenneth Harding, is arrested and charged with repeatedly molesting a 15-year-old boy.

    03/2014 ALEX NIETO KILLING: The killing of off-duty security guard Alex Nieto by SFPD under extremely dubious circumstances draws local and national outrage.

    01/2015 PUBLIC DEFENDER ARRESTED: A deputy public defender is arrested after objecting to officers questioning and taking photos of her client outside the courtroom. One of the arresting officers was sued by Lorenzo Adamson in 2013 for racial profiling.

    02/2015 AMILCAR PEREZ LOPEZ KILLING: Suhr lies to the press and public that Perez charged officers with a knife before being fatally shot. A witness statement and an autopsy report show that Perez was shot in the back multiple times.

    03/2015 TEXTGATE SCANDAL 1: 14 SPFD officers are found to have exchanged violent, blatantly racist text messages that include implicit permission to kill blacks. Thousands more criminal cases are jeopardized by the grave misconduct of a deeply racist force. Suhr announces he will fire all involved, but does not. In December 2015, a judge rules that 7 officers cannot be punished because Suhr allowed the statute of limitations on discipline to expire. To date, no officer has been disciplined for their texts.

    04/2015 RACIST DRUG STING SCANDAL: Officers involved in a Tenderloin drug sting operation arrest only blacks while surveillance video shows other races selling drugs to them. Sgt. Shaughn Ryan, accused in a Federal court of racist behavior, death threats and sexual harassment during this operation, was never removed from active duty and the outcome of his internal investigation has never been reported.

    06/2015 RAPEKIT SCANDAL: Suhr declines to request a grant to test the backlog of rape kits. After public outcry against him, he reverses his position.

    06/2015 CONVICTED EX-SFPD OFFICER TRAINS NEW RECRUITS: Arshad Razzak, sentenced to 4 years in Federal court for conspiracy against civil rights, deprivation of rights under the color of law, and falsification of records, is given a one year sentence postponement to allow him to develop training material for the SFPD.

    12/2015 OFF DUTY COP’S FELONY HIT & RUN: Castro “Hot Cop” Christopher Kors charged with two felonies after nearly killing two in a hit and run. He turned himself in only after any sobriety test results would be impacted by the delay.

    12/2015 MARIO WOODS KILLED: Mario Woods is shot and killed by multiple SFPD officers in broad daylight, in front of children. Video of his killing goes viral, causing national and international upset. Suhr justifies the killing before the investigation is concluded by claiming that Woods raised a knife toward an officer, which video enhancement disproves.

    The killing of Mario Woods in December is the last killing of a citizen by SFPD in 2015, making it a record year for police killings, both locally and nationally. The eight killings of citizens by SFPD in 2015 is the highest number of recorded killings in recent San Francisco history, putting San Francisco in the top 10 worst out of the largest 100 U.S. cities for per capita police killings in 2015. The same year, violent crime in San Francisco remained at a historic low.

    12/2015 D.A. INVESTIGATES SFPD RACISM: District Attorney George Gascon initiates a Blue Ribbon Panel investigation on bias within the SFPD.

    01/2016 D.A. INVESTIGATION OBSTRUCTED: Gascon announces to the press that Chief Suhr and the SFPD are actively obstructing the Blue Ribbon Panel investigation.

    02/2016 ACLU REQUESTS FEDERAL INVESTIGATION; REFORM PACKAGE ANNOUNCED: The ACLU requests a federal inquiry into the SPFD by the Department of Justice. In response to public pressure, Mayor Lee invites the Department of Justice to begin an investigation into the policies, practices and accountability of the SFPD, and announces a reform package for the SFPD that includes revision to the 1995 Use-of-Force policy, additional bean bag weapons, shields for defense against edged weapons, and an attempt to ignore the rejection of tasers by San Francisco citizens and re-introduce them into the SFPD arsenal. Shields were not used in the April 2016 killing of Luis Gongora, allegedly armed with a kitchen knife. To date, the Use-of-Force policy has not been revised.

    03/2016 POST- NIETO TRIAL OFFICER’S PUBLIC COMMENT: An all-white jury in Federal court finds the four killers of Alex Nieto not guilty of using excessive force. That same evening, defendant Officer Roger Morse threatens and/or taunts the loved ones of Alex Nieto on a public Facebook post. While this same misconduct has resulted in the firing of dozens of officers around the country, Suhr has refused to comment on or apologize for Morse’s egregious behavior, which is still “under investigation”.

    03/2016 TEXTGATE 2: District Attorney Gascon announces that a second round of racist and homophobic texts occurring during the first texting scandal and involving at least 3 more SFPD officers is found within a case file on the sexual misconduct of yet another officer.

    03/06/2016 SFPD BEATS AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN IN TENDERLOIN: While hurling racist insults at a man, police brutally beat him. The incident is caught on camera. Officers are not disciplined by Chief Suhr.

    04/04/2016 PUBLIC DEFENDER REQUESTS A FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION: Adachi requests California Attorney General Kamala Harris to open a civil rights pattern and practice investigation into the SFPD.

    04/07/ 2016 LUIS GONGORA KILLING: Homeless immigrant Luis Gongora is shot and killed within 16 seconds of contact with police. Eight witnesses and security video footage contradict Suhr’s public claim that Spanish language commands were issued, and that Gongora lunged at the officers.

    04/08/2016 RACIAL DISPARITY REPORT RELEASED: The SF Examiner releases a report showing enormous racial disparity in the SFPD’s routine traffic stops and searches.

    04/09/2016 GONGORA CAMPSITE VANDALIZED BY SFPD: At 11:35 pm, in the rain, six officers raid the homeless encampment where Luis Gongora lived, harass and threaten the witnesses to the shooting, slash tents, seize belongings, and kick over the candles at the altar to Luis’s life.

    04/11/2016 SFPD OFFICER WANTS CHANGE IN COMMAND: An anonymous officer tells the press that bigotry, cronyism and corruption is rampant in SFPD, and that a change in leadership is needed.

    04/13/2016 MULTIPLE SF POLITICIANS SPEAK OUT AGAINST CHIEF SUHR: A press conference outside of City Hall includes members of the Board of Supervisors, Public Defender Jeff Adachi, and District Attorney Gascon, almost all of whom publicly speak out against Chief Suhr and the SFPD. Supervisor David Campos tells Chief Suhr at the SFPD Town Hall that his office was not notified of the event.

  • sffoghorn

    The POA is effective at intimidation, both political and criminal. But that intimidation of political response to POA crimes has led the POA to overreach and the citizenry to be disgusted. The POA polls and their polling numbers indicate that they need to burnish their image. No other union has polled and taken similar steps. Just the POA.

  • R94110

    Unions do what unions do

  • R94110

    Politicians speaking out is a crime?

  • sffoghorn

    Killer racist cops are the gangster criminals.

  • R94110

    The higher crime rates by blacks and Hispanics is not necessarily attributable to racism. You should cut them some slack

  • sffoghorn

    Criminally higher arrest rates by racist cops is what you mean.

  • R94110

    Are you suggesting that cops arrest innocent people to skew the race statistics? Evidence?

  • R94110

    Evidence?

  • R94110

    I’ve seen no evidence to support that claim

  • R94110

    I’ve seen no evidence to support that claim anywhere

  • sffoghorn

    Nobody cares what you’ve seen.

  • sffoghorn

    Reduced to tautologies.

  • R94110

    If that’s all it takes to debunk you, then why waste any more effort than necessary?

  • R94110

    And who cares what you claim to have seen?

  • sffoghorn

    I comment on policy while you comment on your fantasies.

  • sffoghorn

    Progressives don’t run the SFPD, pro-business economic conservative authoritarians do.

  • sffoghorn

    Tautologies refute nothing other than the presumption of an honest debater.

  • sffoghorn

    Racist cops are racist. Tautologize that.

  • sffoghorn

    Fox [sic] News learned well from Alinsky.

  • D_burr

    Precisely. Fuck them.